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Have a technical question, ask 3M's UHM expert Roland Nuiten

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tech6 over 15 years ago

 

This thread has been closed to new questions.

However, we welcome you to Post Your Question about Communications in the element14 Community Wireless Communications Technology group. You'll find many fellow members and experts who have just the answer you're looking to find! 

 

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Roland has been working as an application development engineer for 3M High-Speed products for 7 years now and has been working as a E E in the connector industry for 15 years.

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    Introduction: I hate connectors.  They're big, unreliable, messy, expensive, and introduce crosstalk.  If I could put my whole system on one board I would.  But when the system is spread across hundreds of meters, or even just involves different circuit board technologies or mix-and-match board sets, I need connectors after all.

     

    The specific need I have at the moment is for a board-to-board connector.  The two boards will both be clamped flat to the same aluminum heat sink, so the usual vertical mate board-to-board connectors won't work.  I have about 20 low-speed digital lines, some power supplies, and about 12 x 50 Ohm analog RF signals in the 20 to 200 MHz band, where I need low (-80 dB) crosstalk.  A set of 10 SMA connectors would sort-of work for the analog RF signals; I want to improve on SMA in terms of cost, density, and assembly time, without giving up much in the way of crosstalk.  I hope the low-speed digital and power will come "for free".

     

    I looked at using a single high density connector (Samtec QMS/QFS) but wasn't happy with the amount of board space needed to fan in and fan out.  Two or three smaller connectors would work, but if they are high density, I risk reliability due to assembly tolerances putting stress on the contact area.  Low density connectors have larger antenna areas, which is bad for crosstalk.

     

    Many connectors I have looked at come close.  Maybe I can leverage the current industry excitement about high-speed serial interconnect.  I sense that I need a creative way to relax one key spec, but still get the job done.

     

       - Larry

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    Former Member over 15 years ago

    Introduction: I hate connectors.  They're big, unreliable, messy, expensive, and introduce crosstalk.  If I could put my whole system on one board I would.  But when the system is spread across hundreds of meters, or even just involves different circuit board technologies or mix-and-match board sets, I need connectors after all.

     

    The specific need I have at the moment is for a board-to-board connector.  The two boards will both be clamped flat to the same aluminum heat sink, so the usual vertical mate board-to-board connectors won't work.  I have about 20 low-speed digital lines, some power supplies, and about 12 x 50 Ohm analog RF signals in the 20 to 200 MHz band, where I need low (-80 dB) crosstalk.  A set of 10 SMA connectors would sort-of work for the analog RF signals; I want to improve on SMA in terms of cost, density, and assembly time, without giving up much in the way of crosstalk.  I hope the low-speed digital and power will come "for free".

     

    I looked at using a single high density connector (Samtec QMS/QFS) but wasn't happy with the amount of board space needed to fan in and fan out.  Two or three smaller connectors would work, but if they are high density, I risk reliability due to assembly tolerances putting stress on the contact area.  Low density connectors have larger antenna areas, which is bad for crosstalk.

     

    Many connectors I have looked at come close.  Maybe I can leverage the current industry excitement about high-speed serial interconnect.  I sense that I need a creative way to relax one key spec, but still get the job done.

     

       - Larry

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