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  • Date Created: 28 Feb 2023 8:38 PM Date Created
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Compact USB-to-Banana Adapter -- my take on dougw's design

baldengineer
baldengineer
28 Feb 2023
Compact USB-to-Banana Adapter -- my take on dougw's design

Previously, dougw shared a bench power supply video where he used an adapter he made. It had 4mm banana plugs and a USB port on it. The idea was that he could connect USB devices to a bench power supply.

I loved the idea and he did a great job with it.

But I didn't like how large it seemed. Also, I wanted something that could be inserted in either orientation without blocking the controls of my supplies. After looking around for "PCB mount banana plugs," I found... well, none. There are jacks, sure. But no plugs. You're left with components designed to be attached to a cable. Then I found Ponoma makes panel mount plugs!

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So that got me thinking. If I used that type of hardware, then how would you get the USB port to be in a usable direction? (Instead of pointing up or down.) THEN, I thought: hey, I can practice making PCBs with mouse bites.

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In my design, you break off part of the PCB (left side) and then solder (to right side) at 90 degrees using the edge tabs. A Ponoma 4mm Plug  with M3 mounting hardware connects to the plated holes. And a short GCT USB-A  connector solders to the board.

The result is a very compact adapter.

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However. Do not build this one.

There are several issues with my first design.

  1. After breaking off the plug tab, I soldered it backward. So it results in the USB port's +5 and GND being backward. (Some might consider that a bad thing.)
  2. The plug-tabs are not long enough. They only solder to the top side of the USB board, meaning the solder joints act as a lever point. I should have made the plug-tabs longer so that both the top and bottom could be soldered.
  3. Some minor issues with the mouse bits I still need to resolve.

All that said, I am happy with the break-off design. It worked as I expected. Although, I still have some improvements to make there.

For the second revision, here's my plan:

  1. Add some indicators on the silk screen to clarify which side is the "top" for the USB connector.
  2. Create "slots" for the plug-tab board to "plug" into. That way, I can have four solder points on each tab (instead of 1).
  3. Thinking about a design to support supplies that have an earth ground terminal between + and -
  4. Also, considering a barrel jack version
  5. Need some 3d-printed parts (red and black) to better indicate polarity.

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Anyway, you can download the design files from here. But, as I said, do not build it yet! Hopefully, version two is a bit better. In the meantime, do you have any thoughts on what could be improved?

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  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 3 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Couple of reasons:

    1. I already have a bunch of horizontal mount USB-A connectors that I will never use up. 

    2. I want to make one for USB-C and a barrel jack. Again, not really keen on vertical mounts I (probably) won’t use for anything else. 

    3. Strength. I feel the need to build something to mechanically re-enforce the vertical USB connector. (and with the screws next to it, that might be somewhat easy.)

    You are right though, it could be more compact. But, it comes down to #1 and #2 for me. 

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    Gough Lui over 3 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Eh, thankfully most branded supplies have their jacks spaced by the standard distance so that certain adapters can fit - e.g. BNC to banana.

    - Gough

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    shabaz over 3 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Not suggesting the following is a good or a bad idea, but wanted to paste this here just in case you or anyone ever have a need for right-angle PCB-mount banana plugs, perhaps this sort of thing could be misused! : )  (the screw holes are obviously intended for grub screws for securing wires, and not for securing to a PCB). They would swing unless there was (say) a PCB behind it, or some sort of enclosure. I don't know where to get these, although I have used normal banana plugs that looked just like this with the plastic cover removed.

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    shabaz over 3 years ago in reply to baldengineer

    Just noticed the subtle but useful feature in the design, that I didn't realize before (which made me initially feel banana wires might be needed due to differences between supplies, but now realized this solves the problem):

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 3 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Sorry  baldengineer  - couldn't tag you in the post above for some weird reason after the forum maintenance. Have also responded to your question regarding the threaded version of the banana contacts.

    - Gough

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