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  • Date Created: 28 Feb 2023 8:38 PM Date Created
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Compact USB-to-Banana Adapter -- my take on dougw's design

baldengineer
baldengineer
28 Feb 2023
Compact USB-to-Banana Adapter -- my take on dougw's design

Previously, dougw shared a bench power supply video where he used an adapter he made. It had 4mm banana plugs and a USB port on it. The idea was that he could connect USB devices to a bench power supply.

I loved the idea and he did a great job with it.

But I didn't like how large it seemed. Also, I wanted something that could be inserted in either orientation without blocking the controls of my supplies. After looking around for "PCB mount banana plugs," I found... well, none. There are jacks, sure. But no plugs. You're left with components designed to be attached to a cable. Then I found Ponoma makes panel mount plugs!

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So that got me thinking. If I used that type of hardware, then how would you get the USB port to be in a usable direction? (Instead of pointing up or down.) THEN, I thought: hey, I can practice making PCBs with mouse bites.

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In my design, you break off part of the PCB (left side) and then solder (to right side) at 90 degrees using the edge tabs. A Ponoma 4mm Plug  with M3 mounting hardware connects to the plated holes. And a short GCT USB-A  connector solders to the board.

The result is a very compact adapter.

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However. Do not build this one.

There are several issues with my first design.

  1. After breaking off the plug tab, I soldered it backward. So it results in the USB port's +5 and GND being backward. (Some might consider that a bad thing.)
  2. The plug-tabs are not long enough. They only solder to the top side of the USB board, meaning the solder joints act as a lever point. I should have made the plug-tabs longer so that both the top and bottom could be soldered.
  3. Some minor issues with the mouse bits I still need to resolve.

All that said, I am happy with the break-off design. It worked as I expected. Although, I still have some improvements to make there.

For the second revision, here's my plan:

  1. Add some indicators on the silk screen to clarify which side is the "top" for the USB connector.
  2. Create "slots" for the plug-tab board to "plug" into. That way, I can have four solder points on each tab (instead of 1).
  3. Thinking about a design to support supplies that have an earth ground terminal between + and -
  4. Also, considering a barrel jack version
  5. Need some 3d-printed parts (red and black) to better indicate polarity.

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Anyway, you can download the design files from here. But, as I said, do not build it yet! Hopefully, version two is a bit better. In the meantime, do you have any thoughts on what could be improved?

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 3 years ago

    Hi James,

    Cute board! I too often want to power from a supply, and in the past have cut a USB cable to access the wires, which isn't great.

    It could also be interesting to add a resistor for current sensing, and either another couple of banana plugs for that, although then the board will get bigger. Maybe the connections for the current sensing could be just pin headers (if there will be an enclosure, then the pin headers could be pin sockets instead).

    Another option could be to have the banana plugs on wire ends, so that they can fit any PSU. If red/black cables are purchased and cut in half, then two of the adapters could be made (keep one, share one : ).

    I use this stripboard-assembled adapter, but instead of banana plugs, it has pin headers for connecting the supply (the red/black pin headers at the center of the image), which is non-ideal. 

    Alternatively, it is possible to power from a USB supply or a PC, using the USB connector at the bottom-left of the photo (and remember not to plug in a power supply simultaneously! : ) A slide or toggle switch could be used to select between the options.

    I used two SMA connectors, one for the current, and one for monitoring the voltage. The data lines are passed through (not recommended on stripboard, but it was a short length). It was all quite fragile so lots of epoxy glue was used.

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    baldengineer over 3 years ago in reply to dougw

    The right-angle came out of necessity. The R&S supply shown in that picture has negative on the left, positive on the right. My other supplies have positive on the left and negative on the right.

    So, I knew I would need something that could be orientated at least two ways.

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    baldengineer over 3 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Thank you for the great list of links!

    The Pomona are just the first ones I came across that looked like they would work and had a good datasheet for me to work from.

    I'll pick up some of the Multicomp parts the next time I do an order. I only had 4, or two sets, of the Pomona. And I already thought of at least 2 variations for this kind of adapter. ;)

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui over 3 years ago

    Hmm. I don't know about you, but I've used a mixture of Multicomp Pro banana contact M3 or M4 studs/threaded types with gold/nickel plating variations.

    https://au.element14.com/multicomp-pro/mp770523/conn-banana-plug-50a-gold-plating/dp/3514772

    https://au.element14.com/multicomp-pro/mp770525/conn-banana-plug-50a/dp/3514774

    https://au.element14.com/multicomp-pro/mp770528/conn-banana-plug-50a-nickel-plating/dp/3514777

    https://au.element14.com/multicomp-pro/mp770526/conn-banana-plug-50a-nickel-plating/dp/3514775

    https://au.element14.com/multicomp-pro/mp770524/conn-banana-plug-50a-nickel-plating/dp/3514773

    https://au.element14.com/multicomp-pro/mp770527/conn-banana-plug-50a-gold-plating/dp/3514776

    They're pretty well priced, as compared to the brand-name Stabuli stuff

    https://au.element14.com/staubli/22-1053/banana-plug-50a-4mm-screw-m4/dp/1085560

    https://au.element14.com/staubli/22-1054/plug-50a-gold-plated-screw/dp/1085561

    I've never used the Pomona stuff before, but I get the feeling they're probably similarly expensive.

    I've used mine to build an "all channels parallel" adapter for the HMP4040's front-panel and some binding-post replacements, aside from just using them as a quick way to connect crimp ring lugs to banana sockets. I might consider building your USB one too eventually ...

    - Gough

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    baldengineer over 3 years ago in reply to colporteur

    Potentially. But I don't plan to have more than a few of these made, so I can't imagine the cost increase would be meaningful.

    I would argue it is still one design, since it connects back together. But I'm sure a fab house might see it different.

    I am curious where that line gets drawn. Part of my reason to do this design is because I am working towards building an enclosure out of PCBs soldered together. (And I learned a lot with this seemingly simple design.)

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