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The Story of a Power Proposal of the Supply Variety

dougw
dougw
7 Dec 2017

The Interested Phase

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It all started when element14 posted a new road test for a Keysight E3613A power supply.

I thought "that looks interesting", I can always use a good power supply. So I looked up the specs posted in the road test announcement.

They looked great, so I set up a directory to collect documentation on the device, including links to the road test page.

 

The Research Phase

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I then went to the Keysight web site to find more information. I found the document library page for the device and  downloaded and read several documents such as the data sheet and application notes.

The site also led to a Youtube video, so I searched for more Youtube videos and found half a dozen made by various Keysight staff.

 

The Motivated Stage

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After reading through the literature and watching the videos, I was very impressed with the features and how they might improve my capabilities.

Now I really wanted this device, but I was still a long way from deciding to write a proposal.

 

The Doubting Phase

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I always have internal debates about whether to embark on a project like this:

  • this is going to be a lot of work - but it will make my work easier - but it is a big commitment - but I want it .....
  • I don't like the image of scoring all the road test equipment - but I can really use this one - but others may need it more - but it is unfair - but it is a fair competition ....
  • I can't think of a compelling proposal - but I have lots of uses for it - but a features description proposal has little chance - but I want it - but there are lots of talented members writing great proposals - but I can write a proposal and see what happens - but it is a lot of work for a long shot chance ....
  • at your labour rates, you could buy this device with a small fraction of the work of a road test - but there are other benefits ....

These arguments rage internally until I finally decide to hit the submit button and sometimes I write a proposal but don't submit, but I don't let that possibility stop me from proceeding, at least in this case.

 

The Brainstorming Phase

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I think it is hard to write a compelling proposal for an instrument because they have a specific purpose and all proposals will describe the same features and propose to do similar demonstrations of how they work.  I think it is important to do all that, but to win, the proposal needs to include something different and interesting.

I wasn't coming up with anything interesting, so I started thinking about all the projects I've done where I had problems with power supplies. There were quite a few so I thought through them to see if this power supply could have been used to address any of the issues. It was a bit of a stretch - this supply can replace many defective power supplies, but is too big and expensive to be a solution.

However I did come up with a metal detector circuit that needed multiple supplies, where I couldn't troubleshoot the main circuit because the complex power supply wasn't working properly. This triple supply would be great at powering the circuit so I could troubleshoot the non-power supply issues. This was okay, but not something everyone would be excited about and I didn't feel it was a compelling application, so I kept thinking, trying to pick problems that lots of other people might run into.

What I came up with was the explosion of USB "wall wart" power supplies. There is a huge variety, and many of them have problems powering high-current / voltage-sensitive devices like Raspberry Pi modules. But how does this Keysight power supply solve these types of problems? Well, read the road test, but one thing it can do is help characterize USB cables, which often have significant voltage drops when carrying large currents. Well, now I had a couple of applications although not what I would call a killer app, so I kept thinking, this time about trends in power supplies that might be topical and interesting.

One area immediately stood out - mobile power - batteries. This Keysight power supply can create an ideal charging cycle for Lithium batteries and it can log voltage and current during the whole cycle. It might show how well commercial chargers perform against an ideal cycle and I would like to experiment with that idea. But what about discharge performance? This might be even more interesting to experiment with. A normal power supply typically is not a good programmable load, but perhaps I can find a way to use this very capable power supply in this capacity and use it to log the discharge cycle at the same time.

Now I think I may have enough to write a proposal that is different from everyone else and has enough different applications to be interesting to a reasonably wide range of members.

 

The De-Risk Phase

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Now that I have some hair-brained ideas about what I want to do in the road test, I don't want to look like an idiot by publishing them to the world and having them not pan out.

I also don't want to be successful with the proposal and when it comes time to carry out the road test, I can't complete it because I don't have the right components and materials.

So I do some homework to prove that I have a chance of completing the road test as proposed.

In this case I dug out my problematic metal detector circuit - to verify that I still had it. I also took a look at measuring USB power supplies and cables and realized it wasn't going to be easy to get accurate results, especially without ripping cables apart. USB connectors make it pretty difficult to measure voltage and current, so I searched for USB breakout cards and ordered a selection with various connectors. I couldn't find all the cards I wanted, so I designed some custom USB cards and ordered them, including a card that has banana plugs to plug directly into the Keysight power supply. Hopefully my research into the binding post spacing is accurate.

I also thought through the problem of using a power supply as a programmable load and came up with at least one design that should work with components I have on hand.

At this point I still have not written the proposal and not even decided to submit a proposal, but if I want all this stuff to be ready in time to meet the schedule, it has to be done immediately. Also, all of this is being done knowing that the proposal, if I write it, has a low probability of winning. And it should be noted that de-risking is not always sufficient to eliminate potential problems. image

I do not mention any of these de-risk activities in the proposal - I don't want the proposal to sound like I expect to win, especially because I try not to build up my expectations. The proposal activities need to be fulfilling even when there is no win.

 

Contingency

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It may sound presumptuous to design solutions and order parts before submitting a proposal or having a clue if the proposal will win, but I often do it and I have never regretted it. I think I gives me an advantage in writing a proposal that makes sense and sounds achievable as well as providing the best chance of succeeding in the road test if the proposal is successful. And the work is not being done in vain - even if I don't win the power supply, I still want to experiment with USB power supplies and cables. Everything else helps improve my knowledge and experience.

 

The Proposal

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For the actual proposal, I broke it into 3 fairly short paragraphs with no pictures:

  1. Product Research and Road Test Motivation
    • In this section I explain exactly what I like about the power supply, what impresses me and how important it is to me.
  2. Road Test Plan
    • In this section I indicate what videos I would produce and what they would cover in terms of device features and performance.
    • I also include short paragraphs describing each of my differentiating applications
  3. Credibility
    • Here I brag unashamedly about my experience, my track record and my previous successes.

 

At this point I re-read the proposal and go through a final round of soul searching before deciding to actually submit.

 

Summary

The whole proposal is only 890 words, but it took a lot of work and thought to get to there.

This is not exactly a typical proposal for me as my mind can travel down numerous tangents on the way to a conclusion, but it is typical that I put more thought into the proposal than comes across in the text and the actual proposal writing is only a small part of the whole process.

 

Proposal Post Mortem

rscasny posted the main criteria used by Keysight in evaluating proposals. In looking how my proposal matches their criteria, they had to dig a bit to infer that the proposal addressed their criteria, because it didn't explicitly have those categories, but thankfully they found enough linkage. I don't know how close my proposal was to failing, but armed with the new knowledge of what sponsors might be looking for it should be possible for everyone to improve their proposals.

I didn't want this blog to be too verbose and I'm not sure what I'm leaving out here, so if you have any questions, feel free to ask them in the comments below.

I will edit this and put a link to the road test once I get it posted.

Here is the link to the road test - it is still a work in progress:

E36313A Triple Output DC P.S. - Review

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 8 years ago +7
    Douglas, I want to thank you for taking the time for writing this. I know you work full time. So, your timely effort is much appreciated. I liked how you communicated your internal reflections regarding…
  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 8 years ago +4
    Nice writeup. I guess I tend to go through similar stages ... except for the pre-purchasing. I do like your part at your labour rates, you could buy this device with a small fraction of the work of a road…
  • genebren
    genebren over 8 years ago +4
    Douglas, Very nice write-up. Seeing the thought process and effort that you put into this it becomes much clearer why I was not chosen for this road test. I will have to crank my game up a bit more next…
  • rscasny
    rscasny over 8 years ago

    Douglas,

     

     

    I want to thank you for taking the time for writing this. I know you work full time. So, your timely effort is much appreciated.

     

    I liked how you communicated your internal reflections regarding the roadtest and what ultimately led to a great proposal (application).

     

    1. Finding the product interesting and having a need for it I think is one of the understated influences of a good roadtest application -- one that can win. If one does not have a need for it, it is perhaps less likely that he or she can write up a roadtesting plan or project. So, a potential roadtester should always consider what value it is them.

     

    2. I try to post on the roadtest landing page the basic facts of the product. I sometimes add in links to documentation. But if one is serious about winning, he or she will do as you did go to the supplier's website and study the documentation, videos, etc. about it. This process will make you more knowledgeable about the product, but it will probably get your creative mind going in developing a roadtesting plan. THIS IS KEY. Why? A good roadtesting plan is what gets you on my short list for recommendations to the supplier. If we are going to give you a product that's woth up to $3,000 US or so, we want to feel you have taken the time to tell us what you are going to do with it.

     

    3. I found your "doubting phase" interesting. Being worth one's time and/or is the roadtest "billable time" so much that you could buy it outright is something I think about as well. I have impressed by some roadtest reviewers who include videos, screenshots or even long explanations about the product to help the less knowledgeable. I guess my only response is: a roadtest not only gives you a chance for getting something for free, but it's a way to participate in the community. I would hope that the element14 community is a chance to learn, talk shop, network professionally, and even make some new friends. So some of the payback is intangible while the value to you (personally and professionally) is immeasurable.

     

    4. Your proposal took some work. At first you weren't coming up with anything. Finally, you did. I think not doing this is ultimately the reason why so many applicants fail to ever win. Roadtesting is competitive. Your application is compared to others in order to get to the final selections. As such, it requires some time -- an investment  in time -- to produce a good application. I see many 0 words to 1-sentence to 3 sentence applications. They don't give me any indication that much time was spent in writing up a plan. These applications usually will fail. I guess it comes down to a time issue. I can understand you may not have the time. But we see it as a participation issue as well. Hopefully the time spent in writing a good application will be a way to not only win but also as a way to particpate in the element14 community.

     

    5. Finally, I like the way you broke down the proposal writing process into 3-stages. 1) Research, 2) The Plan and 3) Credibility. It is critical to have all three. I suspect having all three is what influenced the outcome for you.

     

    Thanks.

     

    Randall Scasny

    RoadTest Program Manager

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  • three-phase
    three-phase over 8 years ago

    Great article,

     

    And there in lies my problem, there is no way my little brain would have come up with those innovative ideas to test a power supply!

     

    Kind regards

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 8 years ago

    Nice writeup.

     

    I guess I tend to go through similar stages ... except for the pre-purchasing.

     

    I do like your part

    at your labour rates, you could buy this device with a small fraction of the work of a road test

    it does show that there are other tangibles in play ... ie money is not everything.

     

    Cheers

    Mark

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