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Freescale RD3803MMA7660FC review issues

gandrewstone
gandrewstone over 15 years ago

Hi 7660 reviewers,

 

I've been holding off on my review because I haven't had time to put the device in my own circuit.  Lack of code really is the issue isn't it?  I mean, frankly all that software they gave us and the USB->serial->i2c board is just a cute toy.  Or more realistically they probably made all that for marketing reasons and figured that it could be pawned off as a dev kit.


It would be pretty easy for them to give us a nice API that calls into an unimplemented I2C "underface".  What I mean is that they wouldn't provide the I2c implementation; all the uPs have those anyway... they just provide calls into a "prototypical" I2c library (read, write, etc) and you would translate their calls into your uP's I2C library.


I've been holding off on my formal review on my blog until I can get some code written.  But its interesting I kind of feel like they are getting free labor here... I mean its worth more then $35 bucks of my time to write that code.  But it bugs me that Freescale has clearly already written that code, but for some reason only released an incomplete header file (for example, it does not mention that the I2c address is 0x4c).  Ultimately Freescale is really losing out; the quality of our reviews would be much better and would come out much sooner if they had provided that code.

 

Here are my initial observations for you other reviewers, summarized.

 

0. No code: see rant above :-)


1. There seems to be no way to program the uP on the USB->Serial board.  So I can't change the code to try out my application.


2. The USB protocol is documented, so I could write my program to run on the laptop and use that protocol.  But that would be a lot of throwaway code, and not really test issues like whether my uP can handle the data stream.


3. Putting the chip on its own .1" daughterboard is great!  I can prototype with it.


4. You can buy that little daughter board separately for $35, vs $130 for the whole kit.  Since that's really the only valuable part for real engineering eval, that's what I would buy.


5. I have a handy 5v uP, other uPs have 1.8v.  Wouldn't it have been a lot more useful if their helper board did logic level conversion instead of USB to serial?


In sum, seems like a nice little chip, with a poorly conceived "development" toolkit.  I guess the magic of open source will eventually fix that, esp. if I get some time this weekend! :-)


If you have managed to upload code to the uP or solve any of these other issues, send me a message!

 

Cheers!

Andrew

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  • bbolo1
    bbolo1 over 15 years ago

    Hi guys,

     

    I have worked with some of the Freescale parts and yes, the demo firmware coming with this kit could have been better. Probably, they just put something in the hurry in order to promote the accelerometer part.

    Too bad, because they also added that QG8 uC. They could have put a simple bootloader in it, so the interested parties would have had the possibility to create their own application and use either uC's serial port or the entire kit USB-serial and custom firmware for this. After all the uC has some 8KB of flash and would be quite enough for some custom applications.

     

    I had a look onto the schematic and there's hope. I saw they left the BDM port connection. So, the QG8 part can pe reprogrammed. This would need a BDM type of debugger. Here, there are a few options:

    - buy a BDM kind of debugger

    - build your own

     

    The 2nd option is much more interesting. Freescale has been sampling a version of their uC (having USB device peripheral) which was used as the building brick for a BDM debugger. I myself built one and it works fine. The BOM is very short and beside the uC (I got it in the sampling program), I only had to add a 74VHC125 as the active parts. Otherwise there are a few resistors, caps and that would be all. And last but not least, it is supported in CodeWarrior.

    So, if your interested in programming the uC on that kit, I'll be glad to help you.

     

    Cheers,

     

    Bogdan

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  • firatkocak
    firatkocak over 15 years ago in reply to bbolo1

    Hi Bogdan,

     

    Yours is beyond a review. Probably many receipient will want to make their own BDM programmer like me. So, please add me to your help list.

     

    Firat Kocak

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    gandrewstone over 15 years ago in reply to firatkocak

    Yes please send the details!  I've got the 7660 working on an AVR, but actually I'd like to eval that uP as well!

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    gandrewstone over 15 years ago in reply to firatkocak

    Yes please send the details!  I've got the 7660 working on an AVR, but actually I'd like to eval that uP as well!

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