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rscasny
rscasny over 1 year ago

Over the last eight years, we have tested many types of products. I don't think words could capture the variety. But I have a good sense of the types of favorite products, which are summarized in this chart:

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Test equipment is the hands down favorite. For single board computers, I combined all the results to include Raspberry Pi, BeagleBoard, etc. Microcontrollers and sensors are not surprising to be at the top of the list; these two products are often used in member projects. But I would like to direct attention to Power Management RoadTests.

I get requests by our suppliers to roadtest power management & related products. A lot of product development is going on in the power area, so this should not be surprising, either. But when I took a look at the number of applications for power management and related RoadTests between 2021 and all of 2023, the number of applications in this type of roadtest is not as strong as I would like.

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I have a number of power management and related RoadTests coming up after August. I wanted to take this opportunity to get a better understanding of what interests you, or not, in the power area. If you could take some time to vote in the following short polls, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks for participating in these interest polls.

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 1 year ago +8
    I'd like to thank everyone who voted or provided a comment. a few takeaways.... 1. A lack of the proper test equipment plays a role, but not totally, in people deciding to enroll or not in this sort…
  • Anthocyanina
    Anthocyanina over 1 year ago

    i've applied to one power supply reference design roadtest but was not selected. I'm interested in power electronics and hve been slowly going through other people's roadtests to see what they do that made them successful applicants, but it's still not clear, so i have yet to apply to another roadtest. i also think i don't have the best equipment to take a power design through its paces, stuff like a basic electronic load, and oscilloscope current probes are missing from my lab which i think are necessary for a well rounded roadtest of power management related products, so that also keeps me from applying while i can get those things. 

    i think test equipment would be my favourite thing to roadtest as there's a ton of stuff you can do with that, to demonstrate its capabilities and usability, but with power management and power electronics in general, i think it's hard to do stuff beyond verifying datasheet specs if comparing a product with a competitor's is not possible

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  • gpolder
    gpolder over 1 year ago

    although already ten years ago, my answer to the first question is yes. (/products/roadtest/rv/roadtest_reviews/1359/richtek_evb_rt7275gq_1)

    Therefore, I selected "other" for the fourth question.

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  • misaz
    misaz over 1 year ago
    rscasny said:
    Why haven't you enrolled in a power-management & related RoadTest?

    I am missing option All of them. Maybe except Lack of Interest.

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  • rsc
    rsc over 1 year ago

    No personal favorite, I think the more out-of-the-ordinary a road test is, the more fun to try.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago

    I didn't indicate I had enrolled in a power management road test although I did one on power scavenging.

    As to why I don't generally enroll in power management road tests, most of them are not of burning interest. I tend to design with modular power supplies or reference designs or legacy designs I've used in the past. While I have an interest in power systems, for a power management road test to be more interesting than other projects on my bucket list, it needs to be something I don't have an equivalent solution for, such as a POE system, or perhaps a solar power system.

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  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago

    As far as what I am most interested in to road test, this changes depending on what I am working on and what gaps are still left in my electronics capabilities. There is also a trade-off between level of effort required to complete the road test and perceived benefit of the knowledge gained and equipment value. For example I am interested in many microcontrollers but would tend to apply for those that bring some new capability without a huge learning curve of some new IDE. Sensors mainly depend on whether I can think of some projects I would like to use them for. Test equipment depends on whether my instrumentation has that particular gap. SBCs probably need to introduce a new level of power or feature set. FPGAs would need some attractive added kit to make the effort worthwhile. AI would need to lower the learning curve barrier.

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo over 1 year ago

    Why haven't you enrolled in a power-management & related RoadTest?  Other:  Lack of expertise and lack of an application to use it (the board, chip, etc.)

    When you enroll in a RoadTest, what is your personal favorite?  I chose Test Equipment but really anything that I can find a real world application for (meaning also within my skill set)..

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  • strb
    strb over 1 year ago in reply to Anthocyanina

    Before starting being included in the Roadtest program, I found very helpful this recording: /learn/events/w/documents/3378/webinar-recording-how-to-write-a-winning-roadtest-application
    To me also has been very helpful (as you're doing) comparing my past failed attempts with actual roadtests when they are published, looking on aspects my application was lacking.

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 1 year ago

    The problem with PMIC roadtests is that the range of parts is large and individual parts (especially the kind that manufacturers would like road tested) tend to have small areas of application.

    When most of us want a PMIC it's part of a bigger project and we wouldn't want to compromise work on the project by using a not quite right part that happens to be on a road test.

    Gough Lui has done some great non-project road tests where he has put  a lot of work into doing  testing purely to investigate the part - most people lack at least one of resources, time,  or interest to do this.

    So I think to get more interest in PMIC Road Testing you'll need to sweeten the deal somehow. Possibly challenges where the PMIC is a key part of the thing.

    I have a current example for this  - I'm repairing an old HP instrument and the LM309K TO3 voltage regulator has failed. I'll probably just use a TO220 7805 regulator bodged in but the idea of making a TO3 shaped board with an AD Silent Switcher chip on it is appealing as project/challenge.

    But I think PMICs might be more suitable in challenges than straight Road Tests. In all cases the value of the chip is not going to be a motivator (unless it was an actual real TO3 LM309 Slight smile).

    MK

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  • dougw
    dougw over 1 year ago

    A PNIC evaluation kit might be more attractive if it contained enough parts to build a complete power supply with appropriate protection.

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