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Can you safely review this Digital Isolator?

OwainM
OwainM 3 days ago

Hey everyone,

I'm trying to work out how suitable the Toshiba DCM340L01  is for a RoadTest and would appreciate your input.

Reading through the datasheet it seems quite interesting, but due to the voltage it claims to be able to insulate from (5000Vrms), I'm not sure what equipment is required to put it through its paces.

What additional equipment might you need for a RoadTest?



Rather than just the IC alone, the chip is provided on a break-out board, as shown below.
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The following documentation for the chip is provided from the manufacturer:

  • Manufacturer’s Page
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  • gpolder
    gpolder 3 days ago +3
    I would assume the isolation voltage meets the specification and focus instead on testing the data rate, presenting both input and output waveforms. A 5000 V isolation tester costs several thousand euros…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 3 days ago +2
    It's not a very good candidate for a road test. I use isolators in many designs and buy them from reputable suppliers. usually TI or Analog Devices, but sometimes others, including Vishay and Toshiba…
  • robogary
    robogary 3 days ago +2
    The Road Test is not really meant as a substitute for the suppliers QA testing, is it ? The voltage stress could be checked with a megger, I would expect few folks to have access to a hi-pot. Id be interested…
  • gpolder
    gpolder 3 days ago

    I would assume the isolation voltage meets the specification and focus instead on testing the data rate, presenting both input and output waveforms.

    A 5000 V isolation tester costs several thousand euros or dollars, and its practical value is limited. If the device’s isolation fails at, for example, 6000 V, the component is permanently damaged (the datasheet states: “irreparably altered”).

    Therefore, such a test is destructive and provides little actionable information beyond confirming the specified limit.

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 3 days ago

    It's not a very good candidate for a road test.

    I use isolators in many designs and buy them from reputable suppliers. usually TI or Analog Devices, but sometimes others, including Vishay and Toshiba.

    I expect such parts to perform as described and specified in the data sheet.If the supplier can't be trusted it would be necessary to 100% test any such parts used.

    The design of the board can seriously compromise the function of the isolator.

    Testing one part on a demo board proves almost nothing.

    Testing one part in your application may prove that the complete design is (or maybe is not) capable of working as intended.

    The problem with these parts is that their function is not very exciting for a road test and the gear required to do a decent test is expensive - the value of the part is not a significant incentive.

    (Unlike, for example, a cheap board with a novel sensor or processor chip where the testing demands mainly the effort of the reviewer rather than the gear that they own.)

    MK

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  • robogary
    robogary 3 days ago

    The Road Test is not really meant as a substitute for the suppliers QA testing, is it ? The voltage stress could be checked with a megger, I would expect few folks to have access to a hi-pot. Id be interested in the exercising of common mode specs. 

     

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  • dougw
    dougw 3 days ago

    At my previous company we had very expensive equipment to test isolation properties. I wouldn't even want that equipment at home. It was large and scary and and required stringent and meticulous safety precautions. It might be feasible to do some functional tests at home, but I expect most people would want some test equipment as an incentive. This type of test and associated equipment is not on my wish list.

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  • battlecoder
    battlecoder 3 days ago in reply to gpolder

    It's definitely a good point. Testing its isolation limits not only requires expensive equipment, but also it could destroy the component, so that aspect of the device might not be something fit for testing. Neither would it be its transient immunity of 100kV/uS.

    But whether both sides are truly isolated and can maintain the specified data rate should be pretty testable.

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe 3 days ago

    The intended working voltage is under 1000V

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  • BigG
    BigG 3 days ago in reply to robogary

    Exactly. If they want independent recognition and validation I'd think any UL recognised test house could do this too.

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  • dang74
    dang74 3 days ago

    Not an expert in this area, but can the isolation specification be tested by a battery powered hi-pot tester.  In spite of the high voltage I think its current is so low that it is relatively safe.

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  • stanto
    stanto 3 days ago in reply to scottiebabe

    That's something I wondered, although it says 5000v can this be adequately tested under that?

    But I suppose you could argue "well that's not testing the full capability of the chip"

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  • rcreighton
    rcreighton 3 days ago

    I picked up a low cost ($60 USD) megger that had switchable test voltages up to 5000V at a previous job. If a roadtest for the digital isolator included a megger like that for testing, then I could see it being interesting. 

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