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A Conversation about RoadTests, Missing Reviews, and the Future

rscasny
rscasny over 8 years ago

Several years ago when I interviewed with Newark element14, I visited element14 website as part of the preparation for my interview. Most recently, I had been a technical writer for an industrial connector company that sold a special kind of "switch-rated" connector used in industrial facilities, oil fields and ocean platforms, mines, generators, wastewater treatment plants, among others for high horsepower, 3-phase induction motors that could interrupt currents at full load and eliminate the risk associated with arc flash accidents. So, element14.com was quite a different kind of company for me! I told the interviewer that I was "wowed" by the depth of content, its variety, and the endless amount of participation of the element14 community members.

 

I thought back then, as I do now, that the RoadTest section of the community was remarkable. The reviews, including vivid images, scope shots, and videos were just so special. Even now, I enjoy reading through them; the authors of RoadTest reviews exhibit a passion for their subject and a depth of knowledge that is unmatched.

 

I didn't initially work in the Community when I joined the company. I was assigned to the Video team where I produced product video scripts for our transactional sites, Newark and Farnell. With recent staff changes, I ended up taking over the management of the RoadTest program. It is a lot of work, but it is satisfying when am complimented on the RoadTest area. Of course, these compliments are your compliments-- the community of RoadTesters.

 

There's much more work involved in managing the program than may appear to the casual observer. I interact with suppliers, select products to review, order & ship parts, create the RoadTest pages (with the help of my colleagues tariq.ahmad and pchan).Since I am the main contact for the suppliers who want to participate in the RoadTest program, I hear what's on their minds: their concerns and their problems.

 

On the topic of problems and concerns, last December a supplier contacted me regarding a RoadTest Review he wanted to read; he couldn't find it. I just thought he had problems navigating our huge website so I looked for it myself; I couldn't find it, either.  I contacted the RoadTester regarding the review I could not find several times; I received no response. The supplier contacted the RoadTester as well. (The RoadTester had logged onto the site after being contacted by us.) Ultimately, in frustration, the supplier's National Sales Manager contacted the RoadTester asking for the product to be returned. As a result of this experience, I spent a day auditing the RoadTest Reviews. I stopped when I saw 85 were missing over the last year. I realized then I had a problem that I needed to address.

 

Understanding the Problem of Unwritten Reviews Has Been a Problem for Me

 

Prior to writing this piece, I met with other members of our team to discuss the problem. Was it a problem, really?  I think that's a valid question. After all, our RoadTesters are human beings. You get sick. You have family problems. Your day jobs can overload your time. I guess if I were an official RoadTester and a family problem was preventing me from submitting a review by the deadline, I would send a courtesy email telling me (or Kelly or Diane) of the situation. I rarely receive status updates by the RoadTesters, which I found a bit odd. (When I do, it usually concerns shipping issues.) Maybe is an age thing: I am much older than many of our members. I was in the military, trained to "go the extra mile." Who knows!

 

I think why I am having a difficult time understanding this problem is when I began following up with the RoadTesters. I contacted an official RoadTester about his review, which was due 4 months prior to my message, and he messaged me back with the following: "I don't have the resources to just pick it up now. Sorry." I guess I just got blown off.

 

I contacted another official RoadTester asking for the status of his review. He responded with the following: "Well, first I would like to reaffirm that I WILL BLOG HERE and honor what was asked of me." It's been about 75 days since he received the product and I haven't received the review. I guess he is not someone who stands by his word. I messaged him today that without the review I would have to suspend his participation in the program. He shot me a message and saying that's okay by him. He still has the product and I don't have the review. And I have a supplier to answer to.

 

Another person even blamed me for asking for reviews because I was dissing all RoadTesters (presumably for even asking.) That's not worthy of a response.

 

I guess I am perplexed. After all, a RoadTester is given a free product and in return all I am asking for is a posted review. You don't have to write a book. Just provide your objective opinion.

 

So, how will this problem we solved. Well, let me start with a self-critique.

 

Solving the Problem of Missing RoadTest Reviews

 

I could make excuses and complain about my heavy workload, but that won't solve anything. For starters, I think I could do a better job at communicating with the official RoadTesters. I have communicated, but it has been later in the process; I have to do a better job at communicating earlier. I have enlisted my colleague e14megan, our Community Manager, to help me. We will try harder.  But open communication is a two-way street; I feel I should not have to always initiate communication on the status of your RoadTests.

 

I also feel I have to do a better job about ordering parts earlier in the process. I have been managing the program for a few months and have realized that many of the products being roadtested are new product introductions, which often don't have a lot of inventory; therefore, I have to order them earlier. Moving forward, I will not create any new RoadTests until I have possession of the products.

 

I think I have to do a better job at screening RoadTest applicants. I review all applications and make recommendations before sending the whole package off to the supplier who makes the final decision on official RoadTesters. I think our current RoadTest application form is too general. Therefore, I am in the process of improving the form for better screening of applicants, regarding their qualifications, knowledge and (most importantly) their participation in the element14 Community. People who participate a lot by commenting, writing blogs, and reporting on project builds deserve to RoadTest that $3,000 piece of test equipment.

 

Finally, I have noticed a lot of the applications that do not communicate clearly what they are going to do for a RoadTest. Some applications are so long that I wonder if the project can be accomplished in 60 days. I've pondered this most of all, asking myself what is a RoadTest? This reflection made me list 5 different RoadTest types:

 

  • Unboxing (14 days to complete): I think an unboxing can be a useful way to RoadTest a product despite its apparent simplicity. It surely tests if the product works out of the box and all the parts and documentation are provided. But this type of RoadTest does not require 60 days to complete. I think it can be done in a few hours. For this reason, if a RoadTester chooses to perform this type of RoadTest, he/she will need to post the official review in 14 days from delivery of the product.

 

  • Test a Product Claim (21 days to complete): I think testing a product claim, albeit more limited than an project-type, is another way to RoadTest a product. For example, some manufacturers claim you can get the product up and running in 30 minutes. Well, go ahead and test it! And report what happens. I give this 21 days to complete.

 

  • Testing to a Procedure or Standard (30 days to complete): For some products, companies will provide a detailed procedure for pre-compliance testing. (There are also testing standards by regular orgs; these may be more difficult to replicate the procedure.) In any event, testing a D.C. power Supply to an established Procedure would be an example of this type of RoadTest. Since it requires a bit of research on the RoadTester's part, I give it 30 days to complete.

 

  • Simple Project (45 days to complete): Projects always take a lot more time and creativity to produce. Plus, the review itself is usually longer. A simple project would be something like taking a Raspberry Pi, adding a sensor on the input and a motor/actuator on the output to perform some type of action. I give something like this 45 days to complete.

 

  • Complex Prototype Build (60 days to complete): Complex projects are the pinnacle of RoadTests. They take the product and use it to build a product prototype. This type of RoadTest would be similar to a Design Challenge project. As such, it would require more time and a more involved review. Hence, it merits more time. I give it 60 days to complete; however, I could be swayed to 75 days if it were really something unique.

 

The Solution: Not Only Me But the Community

 

While it is my job to manage the RoadTest program, and offer my ideas, I think the solution will be forged by the community of RoadTesters as a whole. Perhaps some ideas I have offered in this piece, resonate with you-- tell the community why. Perhaps you think I am off base or wrong; that's fine, tell the community why (but anticipate that I will engage you). Perhaps you have another idea; by all means enter it in the comments section below. I will be rolling out some improvements to the RoadTest Program, so stay tuned. Thank you for participating in our Community.

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 8 years ago +14
    rscasny I think you've identified the same issues we observed some time back. Without 'inner knowledge' it was simply an observation, but we did question the value of providing high value equipment to…
  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 8 years ago +11
    I haven't participated in any roadtests, so my comments are just those of an interested observer. Like you, I am dismayed at people treating the tests as a free giveaway. I originally thought that I couldn…
  • DAB
    DAB over 8 years ago +11
    Hi Randall, Last year I proposed a simple solution called creating trusted road testers. You could do it as an extension of your badges. Use the inexpensive gear to test new road testers. Those that comply…
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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 8 years ago

    I haven't participated in any roadtests, so my comments are just those of an interested observer.

     

    Like you, I am dismayed at people treating the tests as a free giveaway. I originally thought that I couldn't find some of the reviews (the way the site is organised is a bit awkward in that respect) and was then amazed that people were walking off with things like oscilloscopes and doing nothing for it.

     

    Mentally, I divide roadtests into three groups.

    1) High value (largely test equipment, though could be other things like SMD rework stations, etc)
    2) Evaluation boards
    3) Low(ish) cost items like Codebugs, BBBs, PIs, etc

     

    The kind of roadtest you'd do for each is quite different and what you'd look for in the tester is different too.

    I certainly think you should 'up the bar' for the first group - a minimum number of points (not too high, just the number that someone would accumulate if they were fairly active over a couple of months) and some blogging activity (the blogging would further assist you in assessing the applicants) at the very least. I don't think that group of items lends itself to projects or prototype builds - the roadtest is always going to be more about usability and function. The tester should have enough technical knowledge to know what they are doing - I don't think a 'I turned it on and it worked' review is good enough at that level. As an engineer who might want to buy such a piece of equipment, I want to be reading the assessment of someone I can recognise as being a practising engineer.

     

    The third category, the SBCs and other low value items, is, in some ways, the easiest. They lend themselves to projects and, if you give away a fair few, there will probably be enough people who do something interesting that a few people walking off with theirs doesn't matter too much [though it's still worth trying to get those people to do a simple unboxing effort, or something like that]. I think you can accept a far larger range of ability on the part of the testers.

    I separated evaluation boards into a separate category because, although low in value and a bit limited as a reward, they require technical ability (and access to test equipment) to do a roadtest that has much meaning. So you want the ability of someone doing the high value item test, but they've got to want to do the test (out of interest, or curiosity, or because they've got a commercial reason to assess the device) rather than doing it because they get a reward. Unfortunately, they currently seem to attract people who are arriving on the basis that there's 'stuff going free' and aren't even discriminating for themselves whether the item might be useful to them in some way.

     

    Maybe it would be possible to link the categories? You only get to enter for the high value test if you've completed a couple of evaluation board tests to a good standard. Then the reward aspect of the high value item partly reflects something that has already been done and accomplished.

     

    It would be nice to see a larger spread of devices for the evaluation board roadtests. DC-DC buck converters are important and necessary, but a bit limited in what you can do with them other than measuring performance. A few more unusual analogue parts (or even generic parts) could be interesting as they'd lend themselves to people maybe doing design type projects, though I suppose that only works if you have applicants who could accomplish that and most of them will be busy doing it already [which is the other side of your problem].

     

    Another idea to kick around. Rather than just appealing for testers generally, could you perhaps do some roadtests with more restricted groups like university students where you would know the people involved better, know their ability level, and (possibly) have more control over what gets produced in a certain timescale.

     

    Another restricted group is the TMs. There you would guarantee a good response, but they are already all contributing in the way they want to and it's not clear you should be pushing them to do more. There's also a slightly awkward side to it - I wasn't impressed with the one-day roadtest which turned out to be fiddled [note: I don't have any problem at all with the idea of a Top Member (other than putting the medal after the name, which I think was a mistake) - though I would politely decline it if it were to be offered to me - and it's entirely up to element14 how it wants to reward them for their efforts, but it looks bad to be 'working' your own system and misleading people rather than being open about it].

     

    Final idea with the evaluation boards - a 'pick your own' event where there is a range of different boards on offer and people 'bid' for the one that interests them. Perhaps if there was just one of each board being reviewed, the person would feel more obliged to play their part and put their review in, rather than somehow leaving it to the others in a group test.

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  • kas.lewis
    kas.lewis over 8 years ago in reply to jc2048

    There are people who do participate quite a bit but are not top members. There are even some people here who blog quite bit on meaningful topics (not regurgitated from other sites) and are not top members.

     

    As for the one day roadtest, I agree on the disappointment. I stayed up late getting my proposal together understanding the part and what made it unique to roadtest. I later found out the deadline was extended and the announcement date was pushed back a good few weeks.

     

    Regarding your last point of making notification as to who is who on here, as a blogger for E14 which really means I get maybe a project a year from E14 (I would love to do more) I am suppose to have a badge on my choose three that identifies me as such. After noticing that most if not all of the other bloggers here don't identify themselves I took my badge down. Maybe a badge could be used for Top Members rather than a gold medal by their name. That way if they want to identify themselves as such they can and its also less "in your face" the top member thing. But knowing who is Full time E14, who are full time bloggers and who are part time would help other have a better understanding what goes on here on E14.

     

    Kas

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    kas.lewis over 8 years ago in reply to jc2048

    There are people who do participate quite a bit but are not top members. There are even some people here who blog quite bit on meaningful topics (not regurgitated from other sites) and are not top members.

     

    As for the one day roadtest, I agree on the disappointment. I stayed up late getting my proposal together understanding the part and what made it unique to roadtest. I later found out the deadline was extended and the announcement date was pushed back a good few weeks.

     

    Regarding your last point of making notification as to who is who on here, as a blogger for E14 which really means I get maybe a project a year from E14 (I would love to do more) I am suppose to have a badge on my choose three that identifies me as such. After noticing that most if not all of the other bloggers here don't identify themselves I took my badge down. Maybe a badge could be used for Top Members rather than a gold medal by their name. That way if they want to identify themselves as such they can and its also less "in your face" the top member thing. But knowing who is Full time E14, who are full time bloggers and who are part time would help other have a better understanding what goes on here on E14.

     

    Kas

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 8 years ago in reply to kas.lewis

    Maybe a badge could be used for Top Members rather than a gold medal by their name

    I didn't like it either ... however we got over-ruled and it appeared.

     

    The comments/responses a member makes should be enough in itself. If someone wants to check that member then it becomes clear.

     

     

    knowing who is Full time E14, who are full time bloggers and who are part time would help other have a better understanding what goes on here on E14

    I agree. Currently there only seems to be Internal or External.

    I would suggest that 'Supplier' is another that should be tagged to their profile.

     

    Mark

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 8 years ago in reply to kas.lewis

    You mean this badge.

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    kas.lewis over 8 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Yes that badge, that says it all no ? Is more than that needed ? Maybe I'm wrong but if I'm interested in someone's position here I click on their profile and see what hey have been up to, what is your feeling ?

     

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