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Comment on RoadTest Terms & Conditions: Tax Liability

rscasny
rscasny over 8 years ago

I read some comments early this week regarding "personal" tax liability as a result of a RoadTest part they received. (As far as customs and/or duties of the shipments we send to RoadTesters, element14 should be paying those taxes. If a RoadTester is being charged for these, please notify me and I will get you a reimbursement.)

 

I think there are two things I wanted to comment on with regard to personal tax liability:

 

1. The RoadTest "Terms and Conditions" says the following:

 

Winners are responsible for all applicable taxes, duties or other charges payable in relation to any prize.

 

If you are a new RoadTester, you should read the T&Cs and get familiar with them.

 

2. In the U.S., if you receive a RoadTest product that is valued over $600, the company is required to issue you a 1099 form (Independent Contractor). This is considered personal income.

 

In hindsight, I guess I could have added a reminder to the RoadTesters who received products valued in excess of $600 as a courtesy. In the future, I will. Most of our RoadTest products are valued less than $100 so this issue doesn't come up very often. I apologize for any inconvenience this has posed.

 

Randall Scasny

RoadTest Program Manager

 

 

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  • jkutzsch
    jkutzsch over 8 years ago +3
    My original post in regards to taxes of close to $2,000.00 on a less than $4,000.00 piece of test equipment was never to cry foul in regards to Element 14. I did it with one intent: 1. To get information…
  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 8 years ago in reply to jkutzsch +3
    I totally agree with you, John, and appreciate you bringing light to the potential income tax liability that comes with a prize. I wasn't aware of that before now. I think E14 is already going above and…
  • Robert Peter Oakes
    Robert Peter Oakes over 8 years ago in reply to gordonmx +3
    I am in Canada and therefor Prize=tax free . I also receive packages weekly from various other sponsors and they fall into the Gift / Sample / no commercial value category and many of them are useless…
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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 8 years ago

    Nice clarification.

    To be fair to the original poster, it was the prize that he was having to pay tax on.

     

     

    Without trying to be fradulent, it would be nice if the cost price of the item was what was declared.

    After all that's the value the sponsor or element14 has passed onto the receipient.

     

    You could make them sign a DNF that the price remained confidential, if there were concerns.

     

     

    Thanks

    Mark

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 8 years ago in reply to mcb1

    Fraudulent?

     

    In America, our lotteries or any kind of contests or our casinos will make you pay Uncle Sam (ie, US government) if you win a certain amount. It's common knowledge. 

     

    If you read our T&Cs, a Roadtest is defined as a contest. Same rules apply. If you win over $600, Premier Farnell will issue you a form for your taxes.

     

    Anyone who does not realize this has not read our Terms and Conditions for the RoadTest which are published for every roadtest. You should read them, but even if you do not read them, you are responsbile for what requirements are in the T&Cs.

     

    It may be different outside of the US, but in the US if you get something over 600 bucks, you will get issued a 1099 and our government tracks it.

     

    I don't think it is my responsibility to read to our RoadTesters our Terms and Conditions.But I feel it is my responsibility to improve the system as much as I can. On that note, I will as a courtesy include a Tax Liability Tab on the roadtest if the product is over $600 US.

     

    The cost of the product can easily be found by searching for the product on Newark or Farnell.

     

    But I did look back in my notes. Kelly asked me for the cost of the product and the names of the roadtesters who received it -- it was close to $4,000. She submitted the paperwork to our accounting department. So I presume the cost of the product = the amount on the tax form issued to the roadtester.

     

    This is not something that happens often. Usually it's a piece of test equipment. I added a tax liability tab for the 1000X O'scope Roadtest because its around $1000. The Intel Joule is around $400, so a tax form will not be issued. None of the other Roadtests meet the $600 threshold.

     

    Randall

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 8 years ago in reply to fvan

    The 1099 form that was sent to the RoadTester is a US income form for tax purposes.

     

    I believe the 3 roadtesters were based in the US.

     

    Randall

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  • fvan
    fvan over 8 years ago in reply to rscasny

    I understand, but generally speaking, does this apply to the US only or is there a similar EU counterpart to this 1099 form?

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 8 years ago in reply to fvan

    I'm going to have to look into it. This was the first time I had to address this issue.

     

    I'll create a post discussing this issue once I get the information.

     

    Randall

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  • mcb1
    mcb1 over 8 years ago in reply to rscasny

    Thanks ntewinkel

     

    Yes I did mean lie.

     

    We see the misrepresentation of price often with our Asian parts suppliers and frankly it's not helpful.

     

    In any organisation there are two prices .... what it cost, and what it sells for.

     

    Mark

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  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 8 years ago in reply to fvan

    I understand, but generally speaking, does this apply to the US only or is there a similar EU counterpart to this 1099 form?

     

    It may be that the US requires those documents, but other countries still leave it up to the individuals to declare.

     

    Also, in countries like Canada (where I live), winnings are not taxed. It might be that the US is one of the few countries that does that.

     

    For a country that claims to have low taxes, the US seems to hit people much harder across a wider range!

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  • awneil
    awneil over 8 years ago in reply to fvan

    Frederick Vandenbosch wrote:

     

    Why would this be different for EU?

    Because taxation is different in different countries!

     

    One of the key prerogative of a Sovereign State is to set its own tax regime.

     

    That's how we have so-called "tax havens" ...

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  • fvan
    fvan over 8 years ago in reply to awneil

    Of course the taxation itself is different per country, I'm not debating that. But there have been only mentions of the US, no other countries. I'm sure the EU would like its own cut, so my question was: isn't there a similar form for EU citizens?

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  • Workshopshed
    Workshopshed over 8 years ago in reply to awneil

    Yup, tax is ikely to be different all over Europe. Just spent the week in Netherlands and all the taxi drivers were moaning about extra tax on car purchases.

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  • awneil
    awneil over 8 years ago in reply to fvan

    Frederick Vandenbosch wrote:

     

    isn't there a similar form for EU citizens?

    There is no such thing as an "EU citizen" - we are citizens of our own countries.

    The EU doesn't collect taxes from individuals - that's down to the separate governments.

     

    EDIT: Correction - there is such a thing as an "EU citizen"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_the_European_Union

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  • hlipka
    hlipka over 8 years ago in reply to Workshopshed

    In Germany you would need to declare this on your yearly tax declaration, as additional income. Probably you need to also hand in the invoice you get from E14 / Farnell as prove.

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    hlipka over 8 years ago in reply to Workshopshed

    In Germany you would need to declare this on your yearly tax declaration, as additional income. Probably you need to also hand in the invoice you get from E14 / Farnell as prove.

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