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Comment on RoadTest Terms & Conditions: Tax Liability

rscasny
rscasny over 8 years ago

I read some comments early this week regarding "personal" tax liability as a result of a RoadTest part they received. (As far as customs and/or duties of the shipments we send to RoadTesters, element14 should be paying those taxes. If a RoadTester is being charged for these, please notify me and I will get you a reimbursement.)

 

I think there are two things I wanted to comment on with regard to personal tax liability:

 

1. The RoadTest "Terms and Conditions" says the following:

 

Winners are responsible for all applicable taxes, duties or other charges payable in relation to any prize.

 

If you are a new RoadTester, you should read the T&Cs and get familiar with them.

 

2. In the U.S., if you receive a RoadTest product that is valued over $600, the company is required to issue you a 1099 form (Independent Contractor). This is considered personal income.

 

In hindsight, I guess I could have added a reminder to the RoadTesters who received products valued in excess of $600 as a courtesy. In the future, I will. Most of our RoadTest products are valued less than $100 so this issue doesn't come up very often. I apologize for any inconvenience this has posed.

 

Randall Scasny

RoadTest Program Manager

 

 

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  • jkutzsch
    jkutzsch over 8 years ago +3
    My original post in regards to taxes of close to $2,000.00 on a less than $4,000.00 piece of test equipment was never to cry foul in regards to Element 14. I did it with one intent: 1. To get information…
  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 8 years ago in reply to jkutzsch +3
    I totally agree with you, John, and appreciate you bringing light to the potential income tax liability that comes with a prize. I wasn't aware of that before now. I think E14 is already going above and…
  • Robert Peter Oakes
    Robert Peter Oakes over 8 years ago in reply to gordonmx +3
    I am in Canada and therefor Prize=tax free . I also receive packages weekly from various other sponsors and they fall into the Gift / Sample / no commercial value category and many of them are useless…
  • awneil
    awneil over 8 years ago in reply to fvan

    Frederick Vandenbosch wrote:

     

    Why would this be different for EU?

    Because taxation is different in different countries!

     

    One of the key prerogative of a Sovereign State is to set its own tax regime.

     

    That's how we have so-called "tax havens" ...

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  • fvan
    fvan over 8 years ago in reply to awneil

    Of course the taxation itself is different per country, I'm not debating that. But there have been only mentions of the US, no other countries. I'm sure the EU would like its own cut, so my question was: isn't there a similar form for EU citizens?

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  • Workshopshed
    Workshopshed over 8 years ago in reply to awneil

    Yup, tax is ikely to be different all over Europe. Just spent the week in Netherlands and all the taxi drivers were moaning about extra tax on car purchases.

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  • awneil
    awneil over 8 years ago in reply to fvan

    Frederick Vandenbosch wrote:

     

    isn't there a similar form for EU citizens?

    There is no such thing as an "EU citizen" - we are citizens of our own countries.

    The EU doesn't collect taxes from individuals - that's down to the separate governments.

     

    EDIT: Correction - there is such a thing as an "EU citizen"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_of_the_European_Union

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  • hlipka
    hlipka over 8 years ago in reply to Workshopshed

    In Germany you would need to declare this on your yearly tax declaration, as additional income. Probably you need to also hand in the invoice you get from E14 / Farnell as prove.

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 8 years ago

    I've contacted our legal department about this issue, including questions this discussion has generated. I'm waiting for a response.

     

    Randall Scasny

    RoadTest Program Manager

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  • rscasny
    rscasny over 8 years ago

    Update: the legal department can answer one questions, but the others have been forwarded to the Tax department. (We're a big company!)

     

    Randall

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 8 years ago

    As far as I know, in Latvia, if it is defined as prize or gift, it is not taxable income. There is another issue with EU though, if E14 ships prize from US, on import into EU, receiver of the goods is supposed to pay value added tax, unless that is paid by sender, E14 in this case. VAT rates in different EU countries are different, but generally they are 20% and up, so assuming a $1000 RoadTest item, one would have to pay $200 or more on import into EU.

     

    RR

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  • jlangbridge
    jlangbridge over 8 years ago in reply to Former Member

    As someone who has done some "professional" reviews, this bugs me. From time to time, people send me an email, and ask me to test something. More often than not, it comes from the US. I live in France, and I've seen some pretty heavy taxes. The problem is that people send me "sellable" objects, not samples. When I test a product, I receive it "for free", I write about it, and then, depending on the object, I send it back. When I receive an object with a piece of paper inside saying "Thanks for buying our product!", I can't go to the tax office and credibly say "I didn't buy this". One example was a RISC-V board, the original price was printed at about 50 USD, plus 20 for shipping. In an argument with UPS, I ended up paying close to 50 EUR just to actually get the board and test. The supplier was nice about it, we discussed several options, and I ended up keeping the board. The same argument is currently ongoing with another supplier, who wanted me to test a product. I didn't pay it, but now FedEx are knocking on my door asking for money, since the shipping document didn't say anything about samples. I understand the reasons; you have 50 boxes ready to go, you grab one and send it to the testers, without thinking about the contents. On the other hand, when I tested the NVIDIA Jetson TK1, they sent that out with a little gift for my time, (a GTX 970), clearly stating that the Jetson was a sample, and the GTX 970 was a gift, and that arrived the next day without any additional surprises.

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  • jlangbridge
    jlangbridge over 8 years ago in reply to Robert Peter Oakes

    Same thing here, except I get problems from the shipping companies, when sponsors forget to write that it is a sample. When someone asks me to test a product "for free", they normally send me a gift, or a sample. One person grabbed the first box he had, and the top-most piece of paper said "Thanks for buying our product!". After seeing that, there was nothing I could say to the tax office. I ended up paying to test a product. Good thing it was worth it :-)

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