Code for small diy clock kits.

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I've been looking for a project that would be suitable for young Boy Scouts, and have decided that one of these DIY clock kits would be something that even the youngest could put together. Most of the kits appear to come with an AT89C2051 (they all seem to come with the same pcb as well), so I've also searched out code that the older scouts could program additional AT89C2051s with. I'll reach out to the local university to see if they've got a programmer that we can use, but the boys won't have access to one after we're done making these. I think having a couple extra chips to swap around with different programs would be cool to them. The clock comes with a standard clock program, but I'm still looking for a simple countdown timer and a simple stopwatch. By "simple" I mean something that I can show the scouts, and explain commented snippets of the code. The code that I've found has been on forums where the members haven't been active for years, so I can't ask them followup questions. If anyone could help me out with simplified code for two projects, I would greatly appreciate it. I can reassign pins in the code if the boards end up being pinned slightly different than what is pictured (you never know with these things). Countdown Timer: - button1 == cancel timer / cancel buzzer - button2 == add time to countdown - button1 held >2sec == enter/exit setup mode. - button1 in setup mode == toggle buzzer duration between: 60sec / 300sec / 600sec / 9999sec - button2 in setup mode == toggle button2 "value" between: 30sec / 60sec / 180sec / 240sec / 300sec Timer counts down in seconds from 9999 - 0 (in base10) Digits blink at 500ms intervals while <=10sec Button2 push adds value to current countdown at any time Buzzer sounds at 500ms interval. Stopwatch: - button1 == clear - button2 == start/pause - button1 + button2 == switches between hh:mm / mm:ss / ss:ms ("Hr: " / " :S " / " S: ") Time counts up (in base 60) Time stops at 99:59 (i.e. 99hr:59min / 99min:59sec / 99sec:59ms) I think there are some good learning opportunities between the two programs. Showing them the code and having them customize values in their code (like the available "values" for button1&2) will help them feel ownership in the project. TheCustomGeek shared some code for one of his projects, and is what I used as the base for my attempts to make the Countdown Timer and Stopwatch described above. Here's a link Multiplexing for a 7 year old | The Custom Geek I've attached the code, too, mainly so that the multiplexing can be similar in both projects (easier to explain to the scouts). Using a better method is fine too. I've removed this, and attached the assembly code that I had initially started with -prior to finding TheCustomGeek's project. We do have access to a C compiler and linker for the 8051s (AT89C2051 included), though. I'm still muddling through this on my own, but I'm hoping that one (or more) of you would be able to put together some code much faster/better/cleaner than I. 
 Attachments: Countdown Timer.a51.txt.zip

michaelkellett · Answer

The atTiny2313A is a supported product of Atmel/Microchip in current production. It's a way better part than the 8051 based one. Atmel Studio 7 supports it and gives you a free C compiler and debugger. Just for fun I'm down loading it now. If the OP is interested I'm happy to help code this thing. I let my serious paid for AVR compiler license lapse years ago - it would be fun to play with one again. MK

michaelkellett · Answer

I had some free Paypal money (from "Have a beer" promotion on Embedded related") so I just ordered 2 of these:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282484911382?ViewItem=&item=282484911382

I'll try re-hearting one with an atTiny.

MK

shabaz · Answer

That's assembler code, which is likely what you'll need to do for the AT89C2051, unless you can find a C compiler and linker (I have no idea if that is practical for that chip, and it will require some setup concerning the 'memory map'). Very few people program in assembler any more unless they really have to, and the more modern microcontrollers are geared up for C programming. It will take at least half a days effort to decipher the assember listing and code up what you want, and the risk is high that it wouldn't work first time (easier to make mistakes in assembler code than in C code).

fbtjbt · Answer

I pulled the datasheet last night to verify the link settings for the compiler/linker program, and have been getting familiar with the chip. I'll check our library for that book too (I've placed a hold on other items already). The assembly code was easy to read output handling, but the C code was easier to read the rest. Pretty interesting stuff. It's just been so long since I did all this, so getting back up to speed has been rough. Ive searched for timer project code for this chip, but your comment got me thinking about pulling snippets from other types of AT89C2051 projects also. I may be able to find more example code that way.

michaelkellett · Answer

Here (at last) is my code to make the little Chinese board work like a stop watch using an atTiny4313 processor. Only one modification is required to the board (remove the big capacitor connected to pin 1 for reset) because I wanted to be able to use the debugWIRE interface. I had an Atmel JTAGICEMk2 available so I used that - there are many other debug interfaces you can use, some of them much cheaper. I used Atmel Studio7 which is a free download and the code is written in C. I hope there is enough comment in the code for you to understand how it works - if not them please ask. The left hand button is a reset and the right hand stops and starts the stopwatch function. I set the processor fuses to use the 8MHz on chip RC oscillator rather than the external crystal. There is support for the decimal points in the display driver function but I have not used it in the code. /* * GccApplication1.c * * Created: 14/02/2018 10:19:38 * Author : Michael Kellett */ #include #include #include #include // PINS // 1 RES // 2 PD0 CC0 HEX DIGIT 0 COMMON CATHODE // 3 PD1 CC1 HEX DIGIT 1 COMMON CATHODE // 4 PA1 XTAL // 5 PA0 XTAL // 6 PD2 CC2 HEX DIGIT 2 COMMON CATHODE // 7 PD3 SOUNDER // 8 PD4 S1 // 9 PD5 S2 // 10 GND // 11 PD6 CC3 HEX DIGIT 3 COMMON CATHODE // 12 PB0 dp ANODE // 13 PB1 g ANODE // 14 PB2 c ANODE // 15 PB3 d ANODE // 16 PB4 e ANODE // 17 PB5 b ANODE // 18 PB6 f ANODE // 19 PB7 a ANODE // 20 V+ SUPPLY // The LED display is wired so that the segment anodes are pulled high by resistors and the common cathodes pulled low by PD0,1,2 and 6. // To drive the display we select a digit by setting its common cathode port pin to output, low and control segments by setting their port pins to input for on out output, low for off. // // VARIABLES const uint8_t digit_select[4] = {1,2,4,64}; const uint8_t digit_codes[10] = {0xfc,0x24,0xba,0xae,0x66,0xce,0xde,0xa4,0xfe,0xee}; uint8_t timer[4] = {0,0,0,0}; uint8_t timer_buf[4] = {0,0,0,0}; volatile uint32_t debug_counter = 0; uint16_t seconds_timer = 0; uint16_t second_count = 1000; volatile bool new_second = false; volatile bool overflow = false; volatile bool new_timer = false; volatile bool timer_enabled = false; uint8_t btn_up_time[2] = {0,0}; volatile bool btn_press[2] = {false,false}; // LOCAL FUNCTION DECLARATIONS void add_second(void); void do_buttons(void); // LOCAL DEFINITIONS #define BTN_UP_MIN 20 // button debounce time, must have been released for 20 ms to register a press #define S1 0 // reset button on left #define S2 1 // stop start button on right int main(void) { wdt_disable(); DDRB = 0x00; // this is the default but it doesn't hurt to be sure, all segments as inputs DDRD = 0x08; // sounder as output, all else as inputs PORTD = 0x38; // pull ups on the switch pins activated, sounder off PORTB = 0x00; // all segment drives low (when set as outputs) TCCR1A = 0; TCCR1B = 0x01; // timer in timer mode, clock full speed TIMSK = 0x80; // mask for overflow is enabled sei(); // clear global interrupt mask while (1) { debug_counter++; // so we can tell if the main loop is running correctly if (btn_press[S1] == true) // reset button { timer_enabled = false; // if you hit reset timing is over timer[0] = 0; timer[1] = 0; timer[2] = 0; timer[3] = 0; // count is reset btn_press[S1] = false; new_timer = true; } else { if (timer_enabled == true) { if (btn_press[S2] == true) { timer_enabled = false; } } else { if (btn_press[S2] == true) { timer_enabled = true; } } } btn_press[S2] = false; // don't to see same press twice if (new_second == true) { new_second = false; add_second(); new_timer = true; } } } void drive_digit(uint8_t digit, uint8_t value, uint8_t dp) { uint8_t temp; if (digit > 9) digit = 9; if (value > 9) value = 9; if (dp > 1) dp = 1; temp = DDRD; // use a temp so there is no intermediate value in DDRD temp &= 0xb8 ; // set all the digit select DDRD bits to zero temp |= digit_select[digit]; // set the digit select DDRD bit for this digit to 1 DDRD = temp; // actually write to the register DDRB = ~digit_codes[value + dp]; // set any segments to be off as output } ISR(TIMER1_OVF_vect) // timer interrupt, set for 1ms interrupts { static uint8_t digit = 0; uint8_t i; TCNT1 = 0xe000; // we are using 8MHz clock, this gives us 8192 counts per ms which is close enough // a really fun exercise is to work out how to calibrate the timing by varying the // value loaded into TCNT1 drive_digit(digit, timer_buf[digit], 0); digit++; digit &= 3; if ((digit == 0)&&(new_timer == true)) { for(i = 0; i < 4; i++) { timer_buf[i] = timer[3 - i]; } new_timer = false; } if (timer_enabled == true) { seconds_timer++; if (seconds_timer == second_count) { seconds_timer = 0; new_second = true; } } do_buttons(); } void add_second(void) { timer[0]++; if (timer[0] == 10) { timer[1]++; timer[0] = 0; } if (timer[1] == 6) { timer[2]++; timer[1] = 0; } if (timer[2] == 10) { timer[3]++; timer[2] = 0; } if (timer[3] == 10) { timer[3] = 0; overflow = true; } } void do_buttons(void) { uint8_t btn = 0; const uint8_t btn_mask[2] = {0x10,0x20}; for(btn = 0; btn < 2; btn++) { if ((PIND & btn_mask[btn]) == 0) // if button pressed { if (btn_up_time[btn] >= BTN_UP_MIN) { btn_press[btn] = true; } btn_up_time[btn] = 0; } else { btn_up_time[btn]++; if (btn_up_time[btn] > BTN_UP_MIN) btn_up_time[btn] = BTN_UP_MIN; } } } The code posting thing obviously doesn't get C ! So here's a file as well: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i805i4fhuq556kk/main.c?dl=0 MK

shabaz · Answer

Hi, The attached code is for an Arduino, which contains a different microcontroller compared to AT89C2051. The code isn't compatible. You could rewrite the code for AT89C2051, but you'd almost have to start from scratch, since even the LED display is different, yours appears to have 12 pins, and the one that the Arduino code is for has 16 pins, so yours is multiplexed differently, and that would need to be deciphered too. So, a non-trivial exercise to do this, but possible. The AT89C2051 is a really ancient chip, so although you'll likely find information on the Internet on how to program it and perhaps some example programs to get you started, personally I don't have any example source code for this microcontroller - I think I maybe briefly used it >10 years ago. Personally I wouldn't advise it, because you'll need to source a programmer and compiler, and most of this is really ancient as mentioned. Better to just have a construction project with it using the pre-programmed chip supplied with the kit perhaps, and have a different project if you want to demonstrate different code.

gadget.iom · Answer

The suggestion was inspired by this sentence in the original post:

By "simple" I mean something that I can show the scouts, and explain commented snippets of the code.

I've personally programmed ATTiny85's through this method:

https://create.arduino.cc/projecthub/arjun/programming-attiny85-with-arduino-uno-afb829

Further research shows that somebody has already done it:

http://arduinolearning.com/code/program-attiny2313-arduino.php

The Arduino ecosystem was developed with STEM in mind. It might afford the opportunity for young people to experiment with the code and put their own modified programs onto the board.

shabaz · Answer

Hi Paul,

That's interesting, I hadn't realized that the '2313 was usable with Arduino IDE.

As you say, the requirement that young children be able to understand it at least partially, would be good, which is why I was sceptical that one should resurrect assembler code or even old 8051 compilers, and all that goes along with it, like having to answer the awkward questions that all kids will ask if one goes down the 8051 path, like "what does 'sbit' mean?".

That can be eliminated to some extent by hiding it in a different C file and calling simplified functions or to use Arduino as you say, since that has simplified functions. My first C code experience was not Arduino and was using a normal compiler, and so the teacher went that route; hiding anything unnecessary, and we just had to know to include a header and link to a library, and that way we could concentrate on the interesting stuff and not see more complexity than we needed to during that learning phase.

michaelkellett · Answer

I guess it depends on what you want to learn/teach.

Lots of kids will be happy to attempt soldering the board together.

Only a few will want to get into why it works - I always think that the ones who will stick with programming are the ones who get cheesed off when teachers, to use Shabaz's example, refuse to explain what 'sbit' means.

To me the Arduino IDE is obfuscation not simplification (but that's just me )

For the OP, the good news is that he can use the atTiny and has a nice choice of options.

MK

shabaz · Answer

It will definitely make your life easier to use the compiler, because as you've noticed too, the assembler listing is very hard to follow (and difficult for young children to follow too). Regarding re-using the C code: this will still be difficult because the Arduino code has the benefit of using some libraries, that make the code so much easier to write and follow. With the AT89C2051, those libraries do not exist, so you'll need to go through the AT89C2051 datasheets and any reference manuals, and see how to (say) use the timer hardware module inside the chip. The Arduino code abstracts all that away from the hardware, so that things like time measurement are handled by a high-level function called millis() in that code. If you wish to use the AT89C2051, there is no choice but to dig into the datasheets, and also to see if you can find any code in C for the AT89C2051 online, so you can reuse bits of it. You can inspect existing code to see how to set up inputs/outputs, and how to enable the timer, and so on. If you google for "Microcontroller Projects in C for the 8051" by Dogan Ibrahim, it looks like that book will help you (it was written specifically with the AT89C2051 in mind), these were some snippets from the online book preview: If you're serious about getting up to speed with this microcontroller and developing the code, then I think that book will help, plus of course reading the datasheet to get fanmiliar with the chip.

shabaz · Answer

From the pinout they could be swapped out, the work effort is probably around the same in terms of coding. The ATtiny is more recent (but still pretty old though) - hard to say for which of these devices you will find more information online.

michaelkellett · Answer

You could possibly program it using the Arduino IDE but why, oh why, would you want to ?

(I didn't spend enough time looking on the web to find if you really can use this atTiny chip as an Arduino but you can use others.)

You can get a proper C compiler and dev tools for free - you'll need to program to the metal to get it work properly (it has almost no RAM) so C is a much better bet.

MK

mcb1 · Answer

The Digispark Pro is using the ATtiny167 and this includes a bootloader.

I'm not sure how compatible the two are, but in terms of the ease of use then Arduino with all it's limits and benefits might be a better option.

Mark

fbtjbt · Answer

Thanks for responding! I saw your post as I was getting ready to post more info about the project. I, too, would have gone a different route with the pcb design if I were doing this from scratch. I'm stuck with PR1 because that's the way the board comes. I setup a breadboard to mimic the way the DIY Clock display is set up. I didn't have a sip resistor array, so I put 1k resistors from the +rail to the LED/controller. Yellow is attached to Digit1 cathode, Green is attached to Digit2 cathode, Blue is attached to Digit3 cathode, Reds are attached to Digit4 cathode, and they are attached to 6 different anodes. This bit of code works to blink the "segments" (in a charliplexing-sort-of-way) on the breadboard: //
// Common Cathode with Sip Resistors
//
// Created: Mar 26, 2018 4:05 PM
// Author: Flibity Jibbet
//

int segmentPins[8] = {10, 15, 13, 12, 11, 14, 16, 9}; // Map Segment Anodes G5, F10, E1, D2, C4, B7, A11, DP3
int digitPins[4] = {0, 1, 4, 8}; // Map Digit Cathodes (1)12, (2)9, (3)8, (4)6

void setup() {
 pinMode(5, OUTPUT); // set Buzzer
 digitalWrite(5, HIGH); //set Buzzer OFF
 pinMode(6, INPUT); // set LEFT Button
 pinMode(7, INPUT); // set RIGHT Button
 for(int i=0; i < 8; i++) {
 pinMode(segmentPins[i], OUTPUT); // sink SEGMENT pin +5v 1Kohm resistor (pin is INPUT on powerup)
 }
}

void loop() {
 for(int g=0; g < 4; g++) {
 pinMode(digitPins[g], OUTPUT); // sink DIGIT cathode
 for(int i=0; i < 7; i++) {
 pinMode(segmentPins[i], INPUT); // float SEGMENT pin
 delay(50);
 pinMode(segmentPins[i], OUTPUT); // sink SEGMENT pin +5v 1Kohm resistor
 }
 pinMode(digitPins[g], INPUT); // float DIGIT cathode
 }
} I ran into a problem when I put the 4313 back in the DIY Clock, though. It blips the first segment, then appears to crash. A check over the schematics showed that the DIY Clock has a 10k resistor @ R1, which my breadboard didn't have. As soon as I removed R1, the code worked! It happily drives the Common Cathode display using Sip resistors. I seriously can't believe how much time it has taken to reverse engineer this little clock, then to write code that only tests the segments of the display. Nearly a month of evenings into this project, and I haven't gotten to the "Countdown Timer" or "Stopwatch" programs that I initially posted about... I can only imagine how much time my Boy Scout leaders spent learning a skill just so that they could teach it to me and the other boys. Now, on to the next steps. I'd still love any assistance or pointers on how best to code the two programs in the original post. WooHoo!!!

michaelkellett · Answer

I have two - I built one the other day and it does run. The instructions for operating it are so utterly dreadful that I can't understand them at all - I managed to set it by random fiddling. I forgot to order Atmel processors but I did that just now: 1841620 from Farnell (ATtiny4313) I'll write some code for re-purposing the board as a timer - and post it. How are you getting on ? If anyone can translate into English it would be nice MK

fbtjbt · Answer

This guy shows how to set up the original clock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q421PYti3Ic Ive been messing with code, but i think I need a different programmer for the ATtiny4313... so I've been searching YouTube for How-to vids and checking out their equipment.

fbtjbt · Answer

I ordered a different programmer that I saw in a video on youtube. It should be here this weekend/monday. I've modified code for a "multiplexing" clock to (hopefully) work with the pinout of the DIY Clock, so I can try it out once the programmer gets here. As long as it works, I can start messing with code for the two projects above. How goes the Countdown Timer?

michaelkellett · Answer

In your dash blinking loop I think you need a delay between un-grounding and grounding so that the segment has some time on. MK

Code for small diy clock kits.

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