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EDA/CAD-Independent PCB Libraries – A New Paradigm

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Former Member over 15 years ago

It’s about time!

CAD companies and component manufacturers have been slow to bridge the gap between tools to design PCB's and the data required to properly install their parts into designs.

I have been in the design arena for over 30 years now, and the process of creating CAD data from manufacturers is still not much better than when I entered this industry.  You might be interested to note that a recent survey found that 30% of a prototype PCB design is taken up with selecting components and then getting them into the CAD tools for actual design work to take place.  Smaller design teams tend to spend even more time managing the part data.

Finally selecting components that are in stock and competitively priced is obtainable by the majority of CAD users with integration to suppliers such as the Design-Link System available from Farnell.  With the purchase of CadSoft by Farnell, I look to see even more integration of design information in the CAD screen.  Did you know that in August of 2008 the IPC asserted that 75 percent of the impact of a manufacturability of a design takes place in the design phase.  Therefore tight integration between manufacturers and design tools is a must.

30 years ago, I was happy with a PDF sheet describing the part size, the pin names, the signal types etc.  Now I do not have time to waste entering all of that data into a tool by hand.  A natural next step in the integration process is to provide CAD data in a format that all CAD tools can read.

Currently some vendors like Texas Instruments and Samtec are providing libraries for at least some of their parts in at least a few CAD formats.  This is a daunting task to undertake with the speed that CAD tools change and the lack of an industry backed standard for information transfer.  Other vendors like National Semiconductor and Microchip are providing data in a single format that can be converted to many tool sets.

I hope to see adoption by other manufacturers a data transfer method that is both tool neutral and machine readable for critical part data that is manually entered by the majority of their customers now.  Lets face it.  There is no technical reason why 3D models, electrical and physical data for all board mount components, simulation and thermal models are not available for PCB Parts today.  It is not there because the design community has not demanded it!

What do you think?

Frank Frank

Accelerated-Designs Inc.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    I like the idea of CAD independant data.  It puzzles me why manufacturers do not provide more data to us in our CAD tools format.  Seems like I add data all the time that has to have already been entered by others.  Probably even by the comp manufacturer.  Why do CAD companies not provide more complete libraries of parts and save everyone some work?

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    IC companies do have the Symbols and Footprints. They need them to design Verification, Eval and Reference Designs.

    It could be one or more of the following reasons that IC manufacturers do not provide the Symbols and Footprints:

    1. They are not aware that there is a tool available now that can Export to Multple EDA/CAD formats.

         The ADI Ultra Librarian Free Reader now makes this possible at no cost to the User.

    2. It is expensive to have multiple EDA/CAD tools in use.

         No need to do this with the UL Free Reader.

    3. The end users have not requested such data from the AE support staff.

         Ask your IC manufacturers to post their part data using the UL Free reader

     

    National Semiconductor and MicroChip are currently using the UL Free Reader to distribute part data to multiple EDA/CAD tools.

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    I think it is possible.

    Manufacturers also release technical data for distributors or search engines (like octopart) in electronical from.

    But I think there are some big forces behind it that hinder the wide distribution of interchangeable parts data:

    1. EDA manufacturers have no reason to support interchangeable parts. If you have a massive library for product A (e.g. CadSoft Eagle) the transistion to a competitive EDA program will be very hard. So this enhances customer loyalty (or jail-in?)
    2. Parts manufacturers want you to use their parts. So if you have some of your parts in your library - it will be quite an effort to create a new library part for a competitive part - so you stick to the old one. On the other hand they want you to youse their new parts - so for giving you a headstart an predefined library part would be nice. So for manufacturers it is a bit more complicated.

     

    I hope that manufacturers who want to distribute their parts are making the race and by that there will be EDA parts or even interchangeable data format.

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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    The problem is... the UL Reader only read, it no EXPORT to my CAD/EDA... I use the P-CAD and UL show "ERROR" in translate... why this is?

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