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Need strategies to implement a virtual ground

Catwell
Catwell over 15 years ago
Several instances in the past I have come across the need for virtual grounds, often in audio and communication situations. Working with datasheets and application notes, on one particular audio design, I could not find anything in their designs that would give me the virtual ground that was constantly being referenced. The virtual grounds were being referenced everywhere, and other engineers that were working with me wanted to just tie those grounds to the return path of the circuit. I differed on their opinion, and two prototypes were made.

One where all the virtual grounds were tied to the negative terminal of the supply, the other engineer's idea, did not function at all. I watched them tinker with that PCB for almost a week with no results.

The one I had made used this sort of set up at the source:
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And it, for the most part, worked and played sounds. However, I was not satisfied with the result, past lording my triumph over my fellow engineers. I felt it was an ad hoc sort of Band-Aid or the project.

What are the absolute standards in adding a virtual ground to a system? What are the best practices and references on the subject?

Cabe
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    0 Jorge_Garcia over 15 years ago

    Hi Cabe,

     

    What your showing is known as a Rail-Splitter circuit. A more developed version of your circuit would involve an Op Amp to buffer ground. If your circuit doesn't draw to much current (less than say 40mA p-p) then the Texas Instruments TLE2426CDRTLE2426CDR will do an excellent job, if you look through the application notes you'll see how it works, if you need to sink or source more current then adding a dedicated buffer will do the job.

     

    Go to TI.com and search for TLE2426CDRTLE2426CDR APP NOTE SLOS098D

    If you google that component you'll get other ideas for creating virtual grounds.

     

    You had the right idea Cabe, and your circuit didn't draw enough current to destabalized the ground reference, so if you want to improve the design the TI part above is the way to go. In college one of my classmates used the above component coupled with an instrumentation amplifier to make a rudimentary EKG machine out of an oscilloscope. The results were suprisingly good.

     

    Hope this helps.

     

    Regards,

    Jorge Garcia

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    0 Jorge_Garcia over 15 years ago

    HI Cabe,

     

    I actually forgot to include in my previous post, and I think you may have gotten your image from this site, but just in case read through this webpage the information is pretty accurate and I think it will give you a clear understanding of what you can do in the future.

     

    http://tangentsoft.net/elec/vgrounds.html

     

    Hope this helps,

     

    Best Regards,

    Jorge Garcia

    Cadsoft Computer

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago
    In some circumstances, careful design can eliminate most need for a virtual ground. This is especially useful for AC coupled circuits. I have used dc coupling in a sequence of amplifiers just to propagate the half supply offset set up in the first stage input bias network after the input ac coupling/blocking capacitor. Where you might have used a resistor here connected to "virtual ground", you use two resistors each double the original value, as a divider, in order to develop the half supply offset (needless to say, these resistors are not bypassed.) Elsewhere in the circuit, connections ordinarily grounded directly (to virtual ground), are connected to the low supply (the offset ground) through capacitors. I vaguely remember TI  or Burr-Brown may have had an app note on using ordinary amplifiers in situations where wide common mode range amplifiers (ones that allow the negative rail as common mode limit, for example)  would otherwise need to be used. This is one situation you look at the common mode range on the spec sheet. The technique  of using a divider instead of a single resistor may be used in other circuits as well, for example, a full wave precision rectifier may benefit from some doodling on the back of an envelope. 
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