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Need a 240V to 120V 100W transformer?

gizmo1990
gizmo1990 over 9 years ago

Hi,

 

I'm looking for a transformer which I can use wto run an old American computer monitor here in the UK. The monitor has a label which says 120V and 85W MAX.

 

Could someone advise me if such a transformer is stocked here? Preferably one which is reasonably stand alone and does't require additional wiring?

 

Many thanks.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz +2 suggested
    Always difficult to tell without having it on the bench to actually measure. I seem to recall that over here at least electrical products drawing in excess of 500mA need to have their PF substantially…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to gizmo1990 +1
    Hi Jim, That is a reasonable price, it is a hefty piece of metal. That is a typical size too, by nature of what it does and power rating. Like you, I'd be concerned about buying one from elsewhere like…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to beacon_dave +1 suggested
    Hi, It's exactly that. Easier described as out of phase as you say, although in practice it happens due to non-sinusoidal waveforms too. The power the device (computer monitor in this case) consumes will…
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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    Not W, but VA for some reason.  I think because the transformer is a passive device.

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    0 beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Don Hersey wrote:

     

    Not W, but VA for some reason.  I think because the transformer is a passive device.

    Perhaps read up on real power, apparent power and power factor in AC circuits.

     

    As I understand it, generally W is used for calculations involving heat dissipation and consumer electrical tariffs whereas VA is used for calculating conductor sizes (transformer windings) and fuse ratings. Keep in mind that in AC circuits voltage and current are not always in phase which also makes W difficult to measure with the likes of a standard multimeter whereas VA is the product of the voltmeter and ammeter readings.

     

    Perhaps this subject is a contender for a Element14 bite-size tutorial ?

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    0 shabaz over 9 years ago in reply to beacon_dave

    Hi,

     

    It's exactly that. Easier described as out of phase as you say, although in practice it happens due to non-sinusoidal waveforms too.

    The power the device (computer monitor in this case) consumes will be given off as heat, and that is marked on the monitor in Watts.

    However, the apparent power could be larger. Plus there is a certain efficiency for the transformer (85% in this case I think - not looked

    again at the spec sheet).

    I've no idea what the power factor is (was), but I found this on google books:

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    It would suggest that there is quite a lot of variance, but maybe 0.6 or 0.7 would be a good number to choose.

    So, that means 120-140VA but at 85% efficiency 140-160VA is more appropriate.

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    0 gizmo1990 over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Hi Shabaz are you suggesting that the  TIM100TIM100 would not be sufficiently powerful to power the monitor Even though 85W is stated on the chassis Surely it should be fine

    Sorry if my question is in simplistic terms but I'm sure you guys have guessed this is going a little over my head!

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    0 beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Always difficult to tell without having it on the bench to actually measure.

     

    I seem to recall that over here at least electrical products drawing in excess of 500mA need to have their PF substantially corrected. Not sure when that rule came in or if it was internationally adopted. However from previous tests with my budget power meter it appears to be true.

     

    Also the 85W referred to was specified as a maximum rating which probably means peak power draw at on switch-on and not continuous.

     

    There is the Block  TIM200TIM200 which is rated at 200VA but price jumps up again

    TIM200 - BLOCK - Isolation Transformer, Class II, 200 VA, 1 x 230V, 2 x 115V, 860 mA | Farnell element14

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave over 9 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Always difficult to tell without having it on the bench to actually measure.

     

    I seem to recall that over here at least electrical products drawing in excess of 500mA need to have their PF substantially corrected. Not sure when that rule came in or if it was internationally adopted. However from previous tests with my budget power meter it appears to be true.

     

    Also the 85W referred to was specified as a maximum rating which probably means peak power draw at on switch-on and not continuous.

     

    There is the Block  TIM200TIM200 which is rated at 200VA but price jumps up again

    TIM200 - BLOCK - Isolation Transformer, Class II, 200 VA, 1 x 230V, 2 x 115V, 860 mA | Farnell element14

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