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Capacitor types for Voltage multiplier circuits

ctedder
ctedder over 9 years ago

What type of capacitor consruction would be the safest and most robust for half wave voltage multiplier circuits @ 60Hz to around 20Kv?

I have been considering polypropylene box style...thoughts?

I also want to construct a similar circuit, except with variable frequency and duty cycle to the input of the multiplier to around 35KHz.

Any suggestions would be helpful. Thanks in advance!

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  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 9 years ago +1
    Some guys make their own out of sheets of polycarbonate or acrylic or Teflon interleaved with sheets of copper. These are a little scary.
  • dougw
    dougw over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey +1
    I recall seeing some made from glass panes and aluminum foil immersed in oil.
  • D_Hersey
    D_Hersey over 9 years ago in reply to dougw +1
    Have you played with the new packages they have for tea-bags? Must have a dielectric constant that is out of this world, it was strongly sticking to my fingers!
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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    Just derate it a little, if you are going for 20, get 35

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  • clem57
    0 clem57 over 9 years ago

    http://www.voltagemultipliers.com/start.htm

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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    Some guys make their own out of sheets of polycarbonate or acrylic or Teflon interleaved with sheets of copper.  These are a little scary.

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    0 dougw over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    I recall seeing some made from glass panes and aluminum foil immersed in oil.

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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago in reply to dougw

    Have you played with the new packages they have for tea-bags?  Must have a

    dielectric constant that is out of this world, it was strongly sticking to

    my fingers!

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    0 Former Member over 9 years ago

    I would be more comfortable using ceramic capacitors, most voltage multipliers I've seen use them.

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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I think any capacitor that is rated above these potentials should work.  Ceramics are the traditional ones used, but this is probably mostly for reasons of economy.  Polypropylene caps are prized for their linearity and stability, so we often find them in HiFis and sample/hold or track/hold circuits.  Ceramics are probably also chosen for their low parasitic inductances.  HV caps that need to be accurate or fast are usually either Teflon or Silver-Mica.  Even though mica is a natural material, it gives gold-Teflon at least a good run for the money.  Nowadays, I might look into modern variant of the ceramic, co-fired mult-ilayer ceramic capacitor.  If they make these rated at the potentials you require, they would be a little more volumetrically efficient

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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    The Sovs were really good at discretes, due to their materials fetish:

     

    Great deals in voltage capacitor from SOVCOM | eBay Stores

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    0 ctedder over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Good overview and food for thought. Thanks!

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    0 ctedder over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Thanks for the info

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