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Please help me identify this interesting display

wuane
wuane over 8 years ago

Hello!

 

I've been in vienna about a month ago and some of the older metro stations have some extremely interesting displays I've never seen anywhere before.

 

I've searched for them all around the internet and literally couldn't find anything about those displays!

I even wrote a email to the vienna public transport company. They forwarded me to a technician who just told me those are "segment displays"

 

I would be really thankful if you have some information about these displays and if you could share them with me.

 

Already thanks in advance!

 

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  • RParkerE
    RParkerE over 8 years ago +4 suggested
    I think I found it. Check this out: Ateg - Automation GmbH (I'll put the image below too) Looks as though you were correct and it is indeed an LCD!
  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 8 years ago in reply to dougw +3 suggested
    The segmentation is too intricate for a flip dot. (Those characters are only a couple of inches high.) I'd say it's LCD. I can vaguely remember a job which included a couple of similar displays back in…
  • richardbiddle
    richardbiddle over 8 years ago +3
    They look like they could be 111 segment LCD displays. Similar to REITBERGER Alphanumeric LCD large displas or LCD - Segment Displays
  • koudelad
    0 koudelad over 8 years ago

    Hello,

     

    I can't see clearly in the picture whether the segments are just painted plastic blocks or actually LEDs.

    I'd personally write to that technician one more time and specifically ask about the supplier (that probably won't be a secret). There are many companies that specialize in these displays and there are many types (mechanical, LED matrix, LCDs...). Most of these displays are custom manufactured for a specific purpose. Each transportation company has it's own idea of what the perfect display should like image

     

    David

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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 8 years ago

    If I had to guess I would say it is a split-flap display which is a variation on a flip-dot display pioneered by Ferranti or Ferranti-Packard.

    Electro-mechanical pixels with a fluorescent side and a black side that get flipped by electro-magnets.

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    0 jc2048 over 8 years ago in reply to dougw

    The segmentation is too intricate for a flip dot. (Those characters are only a couple of inches high.)

     

    I'd say it's LCD. I can vaguely remember a job which included a couple of similar displays back in the mid 1990s. I think the ones we worked with were made by Siemens. The backlight was a tube running along behind each row of characters. The individual characters sat on an internal multidrop bus (RS422, or RS485, or something like that), so it was simple and neat inside. There was an interface board at the end which didn't have to do much other than relay the data on to the characters. At the time, Siemens was a hugh company with their own semiconductor division, so they would have been making the LCDs and semiconductors themselves. These units sold for a considerable premium above the kind of LED signage that we were making but would have cost them much less to build, so they would have been making a tidy profit on them. I don't know what my role would have been - I probably just looked at the stuff being sent to the display with a scope to give the programmers a helping hand with getting the interface to the thing working, or something like that.

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 8 years ago in reply to jc2048

    It looks really similar (but yellow instead of green) to the UK trains message signs on Network Rail up till about 5-10 years ago (they have changed them since then) and they too looked like LCD. So my guess for the one in the photo is LCD too.

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    0 richardbiddle over 8 years ago

    They look like they could be 111 segment LCD displays.

    Similar to REITBERGER Alphanumeric LCD large displas or LCD - Segment Displays

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  • RParkerE
    0 RParkerE over 8 years ago

    I think I found it. Check this out: Ateg - Automation GmbH (I'll put the image below too)

    Looks as though you were correct and it is indeed an LCD!

     

    image

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