element14 Community
element14 Community
    Register Log In
  • Site
  • Search
  • Log In Register
  • Community Hub
    Community Hub
    • What's New on element14
    • Feedback and Support
    • Benefits of Membership
    • Personal Blogs
    • Members Area
    • Achievement Levels
  • Learn
    Learn
    • Ask an Expert
    • eBooks
    • element14 presents
    • Learning Center
    • Tech Spotlight
    • STEM Academy
    • Webinars, Training and Events
    • Learning Groups
  • Technologies
    Technologies
    • 3D Printing
    • FPGA
    • Industrial Automation
    • Internet of Things
    • Power & Energy
    • Sensors
    • Technology Groups
  • Challenges & Projects
    Challenges & Projects
    • Design Challenges
    • element14 presents Projects
    • Project14
    • Arduino Projects
    • Raspberry Pi Projects
    • Project Groups
  • Products
    Products
    • Arduino
    • Avnet & Tria Boards Community
    • Dev Tools
    • Manufacturers
    • Multicomp Pro
    • Product Groups
    • Raspberry Pi
    • RoadTests & Reviews
  • About Us
  • Store
    Store
    • Visit Your Store
    • Choose another store...
      • Europe
      •  Austria (German)
      •  Belgium (Dutch, French)
      •  Bulgaria (Bulgarian)
      •  Czech Republic (Czech)
      •  Denmark (Danish)
      •  Estonia (Estonian)
      •  Finland (Finnish)
      •  France (French)
      •  Germany (German)
      •  Hungary (Hungarian)
      •  Ireland
      •  Israel
      •  Italy (Italian)
      •  Latvia (Latvian)
      •  
      •  Lithuania (Lithuanian)
      •  Netherlands (Dutch)
      •  Norway (Norwegian)
      •  Poland (Polish)
      •  Portugal (Portuguese)
      •  Romania (Romanian)
      •  Russia (Russian)
      •  Slovakia (Slovak)
      •  Slovenia (Slovenian)
      •  Spain (Spanish)
      •  Sweden (Swedish)
      •  Switzerland(German, French)
      •  Turkey (Turkish)
      •  United Kingdom
      • Asia Pacific
      •  Australia
      •  China
      •  Hong Kong
      •  India
      • Japan
      •  Korea (Korean)
      •  Malaysia
      •  New Zealand
      •  Philippines
      •  Singapore
      •  Taiwan
      •  Thailand (Thai)
      • Vietnam
      • Americas
      •  Brazil (Portuguese)
      •  Canada
      •  Mexico (Spanish)
      •  United States
      Can't find the country/region you're looking for? Visit our export site or find a local distributor.
  • Translate
  • Profile
  • Settings
Experts, Learning and Guidance
  • Technologies
  • More
Experts, Learning and Guidance
Ask an Expert Forum CMOS (4000B) compared to TTL Low power Shottcky (74LS)??
  • Blog
  • Forum
  • Documents
  • Leaderboard
  • Files
  • Members
  • Mentions
  • Sub-Groups
  • Tags
  • More
  • Cancel
  • New
Join Experts, Learning and Guidance to participate - click to join for free!
Actions
  • Share
  • More
  • Cancel
Forum Thread Details
  • State Suggested Answer
  • Replies 5 replies
  • Answers 5 answers
  • Subscribers 305 subscribers
  • Views 1753 views
  • Users 0 members are here
  • ttl
  • cmos
Related
See a helpful answer?

Be sure to click 'more' and select 'suggest as answer'!

If you're the thread creator, be sure to click 'more' then 'Verify as Answer'!

CMOS (4000B) compared to TTL Low power Shottcky (74LS)??

millertron
millertron over 7 years ago

Hello all,
I am studying electronics at college and have been asked to compare the TTL Low Power Schottky (74LS) and CMOS (4000B) logic families.
I have searched the internet for figures to compare but it seems that everywhere I look gives different values for the specifications that I require. Would any of you be able to give me general values for the:

-Logic high and Logic Low Input current and ‘Fan In’

-Logic high and Logic Low Output current and ‘Fan Out’

-Propagation Delay

-Noise Margin

-Logic high and Logic Low input voltage levels

-Logic high and Logic Low output voltage levels

-Upper frequency limit

for each of the TTL Low Power Schottky (74LS) and CMOS (4000B) logic families so that I can then compare them to each other to create my answer.

I understand these values may be slightly different for different logic chips and manufacturers but I am just after a general overview. Component datasheets don't seem to give all the information that I require and they are all rather cryptic about some points as I guess these values are presumed by the fact they are members of these logic families.

 

Any help would be amazing.

Thanks

  • Sign in to reply
  • Cancel

Top Replies

  • ntewinkel
    ntewinkel over 7 years ago +4 suggested
    It sounds like the lesson is more about reading data sheets and less about the actual logic family details. From personal experience I can say it's worth the learning curve To find them, I would start…
  • fmilburn
    fmilburn over 7 years ago +3 suggested
    As well as the great advice above, I was taught if I saw a range to report the range as well as the source. Just record and report the ranges in the literature.
  • danielw
    danielw over 7 years ago +2 suggested
    In the days of old fashioned data books, each part had its own specific data but then there would be separate family data sheets that covered the input and output circuits. I would suggest go direct to…
  • danielw
    0 danielw over 7 years ago

    In the days of old fashioned data books, each part had its own specific data but then there would be separate family data sheets that covered the input and output circuits. I would suggest go direct to the manufacturers website and have a look on there.  Rather than go straight to the data sheet, look at the technical documents where there will be application data and family information.

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +2 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Reject Answer
    • Cancel
  • jw0752
    0 jw0752 over 7 years ago

    Hi James,

    Paul Scherz, in his book Practical Electronics for Inventors Third Edition  ISBN 978-0-07-177133-7 has a nice section that compares the different logic families. If you can get your hands on a copy check out pages 755 through 763.

    John

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +2 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Reject Answer
    • Cancel
  • fmilburn
    0 fmilburn over 7 years ago

    As well as the great advice above, I was taught if I saw a range to report the range as well as the source.  Just record and report the ranges in the literature.  

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +3 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Reject Answer
    • Cancel
  • mcb1
    0 mcb1 over 7 years ago

    Check the datasheets from various suppliers.

    The good part nowdays is most are online, so you don't even need to buy the books.

    BUT some are not the complete datasheet, and depending on the manufacturer, may vary in how they present the information

     

    Component datasheets don't seem to give all the information that I require

    I'd suggest you're not looking at the right datasheets.

    Keep looking and look for the information, not the title ie propgation is going to be a time measurement.

     

     

    The questions you're asking, are something you need to understand and be able to use, hence why it has been asked to do it.

     

     

    Mark

     

    Edit ... damn keyboard keeps mixing up letters.

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +1 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Reject Answer
    • Cancel
  • ntewinkel
    0 ntewinkel over 7 years ago

    It sounds like the lesson is more about reading data sheets and less about the actual logic family details.

    From personal experience I can say it's worth the learning curve image

     

    To find them, I would start by picking a specific 74LS chip, and using google to find it. For example, take 74LS04, google for "74LS04 datasheet", and you'll find Texas Instruments has one in pdf form right near the top of the results list.

    Page 5 shows a handful of what you're asking for.

     

    Then do the same for the 4000 series. Pick a specific chip, and search for the datasheet.

     

    I think Wikipedia will show you the list of possible chips for both types, but you probably just need a few representative chips of either type, like the NAND, AND, OR, NOT.

     

    Hope that helps!

     

    Cheers,

    -Nico

    • Cancel
    • Vote Up +4 Vote Down
    • Sign in to reply
    • Verify Answer
    • Reject Answer
    • Cancel
element14 Community

element14 is the first online community specifically for engineers. Connect with your peers and get expert answers to your questions.

  • Members
  • Learn
  • Technologies
  • Challenges & Projects
  • Products
  • Store
  • About Us
  • Feedback & Support
  • FAQs
  • Terms of Use
  • Privacy Policy
  • Legal and Copyright Notices
  • Sitemap
  • Cookies

An Avnet Company © 2026 Premier Farnell Limited. All Rights Reserved.

Premier Farnell Ltd, registered in England and Wales (no 00876412), registered office: Farnell House, Forge Lane, Leeds LS12 2NE.

ICP 备案号 10220084.

Follow element14

  • X
  • Facebook
  • linkedin
  • YouTube