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Former Member over 13 years ago

Hi everyone

I have to appologise as I'm a microbiologist embarking on this mission and it seems I'm way over my depth in here for asking a simple question from you experts but i need your help. I need a design for circuit board for a high power blue LED. do you know where i can find a good one? it must feed on mains (with a cheap adaptor) and very cheap to produce without loosing power etc. I have couple of articles which I can share if you want. Looking forward to your answers.

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    0 DAB over 13 years ago

    I think you need to provide us with some additional information.  What is hight power?  Do you have a a wattage number.  Do you need pulsed or constant illumination?  Do you have a specific wavelength that the blue light needs to meet?  What are the capability of your mains?  I am assuming you are using european current and not US circuitry.

     

    If you tells us better what you need, we can make better recommendations to solve your problem.

     

    FYI, I have a lot of experience in spectral sensors, sources and processing and would be interested in hearing a little more about your overall project.  I may be able to help you come up with a better solution.

     

    But first, you have to help us understand your problem before we can help you.

     

    Just a thought,

    DAB

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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to DAB

    Hi DAB

    Thanks for getting back to me. Sorry better give a bit of background. The blue LED is for the use in microscopy to excite an antibody label at 470-490nm.

    Here comes the problem, I know the biological side of it but don't have much of electronic background.

    I found some articles in journals bellow;

    http://http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002146

     

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19772530

     

    http://www.stanford.edu/group/blocklab/GutierrezAJP2010.pdf

     

    Looking at other web sites gave different components which I'm not sure what is the advantage of using those. The Idea is to make it as cheap as possible probably around £20 if possible. Also the price of LED varies so much from around £1-£40 for the same so called high power LED. It is a worth while project if it works hence I need your expertise and suggestions.

    Many thanks

    Hooman

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    0 DAB over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Ok Hooman,

     

    I did some web searches and from what I can tell, the HPLC technique uses the UV light to measure how much the cells absorb as they pass through the flow column.

    I am not sure you can do this with an just an LED, but I am not a specialist in using the equipment.

    I could probably help you if you just want to illuminate cells on a slide to see the cells by contrasting the fluid absorbtion verses the cells, but I am not sure if that is what you want.

     

    Hopefully someone else in the community can give you a more concise solution, but I am afraid that this problem is out of my expertise.

     

    Sorry,

    DAB

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    0 Former Member over 13 years ago in reply to DAB

    Thanks DAB for going to trouble to looking into it. it is a bit like flowcytometry i guess but in solid state. The way it works is the antibody is conjugated to a light sensitive chemical. what we do is we put this on the sample. if what we are looking for is present in the sample it will bind to it and under right wavelength it will luminance.normally it is done using mercury or similar lights with filters to obtain the right frequency to this to work. 

    did you see the board designs? do you think they are ok? or can be improved? is it better if I just put up the board designs?

    Not sure if I'm making scene but we need your expertise to solve our problem to make this cheaper and more accessible. This is the problem with science, lack of communication image.

    Many thanks again

    Hooman

     

    Actually reading your reply again that is exactly what I want. cells are fixed to a slide, then stained and observed under microscope. all it needs a constant supply of blue light which does not loose intensity. it is also important that the light source has a long life and doesn't need replacing like mercury lights where it has to be changed after 200 or so hrs to keep the intensity.

    I assume you are in states or I would be more than happy to explain in person.

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    0 DAB over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Hooman,

     

    Ok, now I understand.  You need the UV to trigger the binding mechanism.  I didn't see any circuit diagrams in the search I did.

     

    However, I have a suggestion.  Search on E-Bay for an old UV EPROM eraser.  Nobody uses them much anymore so you should be able to get one inexpensively.

    The one I have came with a UV bulb and a timer.  If you can get one of those, you simply put the slides inside and set the timer and the UV lamp will illuminate the cells.  You may have to play with the timing a little to find out how long you need to expose them, but that would be the most inexpensive way to get what you need.

     

    Other than that, you can build a simple 555 timing circuit with adjustable frequency and pulse width to drive a UV LED.  The circuit is readily available and you should be able to get by with a low wattage LED.

    If the action is like you say it is, then all you need to do is illuminate the sample until the marker sets.  Again, you just need to play with the exposure time.  A higher wattage LED might run faster, but you might need more driver circuitry, which is more complex then the simple timing circuit I propose.  Just search on 555 timers and you will get more than enough tested circuits that will be easy to build.

     

    I think that will solve your problem.

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    0 DAB over 13 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Hooman,

     

    Ok, now I understand.  You need the UV to trigger the binding mechanism.  I didn't see any circuit diagrams in the search I did.

     

    However, I have a suggestion.  Search on E-Bay for an old UV EPROM eraser.  Nobody uses them much anymore so you should be able to get one inexpensively.

    The one I have came with a UV bulb and a timer.  If you can get one of those, you simply put the slides inside and set the timer and the UV lamp will illuminate the cells.  You may have to play with the timing a little to find out how long you need to expose them, but that would be the most inexpensive way to get what you need.

     

    Other than that, you can build a simple 555 timing circuit with adjustable frequency and pulse width to drive a UV LED.  The circuit is readily available and you should be able to get by with a low wattage LED.

    If the action is like you say it is, then all you need to do is illuminate the sample until the marker sets.  Again, you just need to play with the exposure time.  A higher wattage LED might run faster, but you might need more driver circuitry, which is more complex then the simple timing circuit I propose.  Just search on 555 timers and you will get more than enough tested circuits that will be easy to build.

     

    I think that will solve your problem.

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