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Very low friction potentiometer or encoder

tobbera
tobbera over 11 years ago

Hi!

 

Hope you can help me. I'm going to build a wind vane that senses wind direction. For this I need a rotary position sensor such as a potentiometer or encoder. Its going to be connected to and Arduino Uno

 

                  *360 degrees rotation without stop.

    • *Very low friction (free spinning)
    • *Resolution of at least 360 per revolution.
    • *Dead band of  up to 45 degrees is OK
    • *Ruggedness and durability is not of great concern, this is for an experiment.
    • *Bellow USD $50

 

I have looked at several online, but found many to be very expensive. I have bought a BOURNS 6639S-1-103, but it simply has too much friction

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago

    Hi!

     

    I just finished making a prototype wind vane. I used a rotary encoder (like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-New-High-Quality-Rotary-Encoder-Switch-With-Keyswitch-/310911594094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&…) for detection of position, it's got 18 degrees of resolution.

    But since it could occationally miss a step when moved around fast to both sides, I added a IR led and IR receiver that is used to calibrate north against the flat side of the rotary encoders shaft, after adding this it has been spot on.

     

    The encoder got a little mechanical friction, but not enough to not move with small winds if the vane is properly designed.

    I currently have it display the wind in degrees, and it shows the direction like: N, NE, etc.

    Think I have nailed the calibration of north function too.

     

    Would be happy to share the code I have pieced together so far, this is a very cheap way of making an accurate wind vane.

     

    Maybe I will try to replace the IR with a hall effect sensor and a magnet, it may be a better long term solution in harsh conditions?

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago

    Hi!

     

    I just finished making a prototype wind vane. I used a rotary encoder (like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/10pcs-New-High-Quality-Rotary-Encoder-Switch-With-Keyswitch-/310911594094?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&…) for detection of position, it's got 18 degrees of resolution.

    But since it could occationally miss a step when moved around fast to both sides, I added a IR led and IR receiver that is used to calibrate north against the flat side of the rotary encoders shaft, after adding this it has been spot on.

     

    The encoder got a little mechanical friction, but not enough to not move with small winds if the vane is properly designed.

    I currently have it display the wind in degrees, and it shows the direction like: N, NE, etc.

    Think I have nailed the calibration of north function too.

     

    Would be happy to share the code I have pieced together so far, this is a very cheap way of making an accurate wind vane.

     

    Maybe I will try to replace the IR with a hall effect sensor and a magnet, it may be a better long term solution in harsh conditions?

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    0 vsluiter over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    .. Or use a sensor by AMS (5048, for instance), or RLS. Those just require one magnet (diametrically magnetized, for sale at supermagnete.de), and you'll get absolute rotation as output

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to vsluiter

    Thank you for the tip! Haven't even read about that kind of sensor, just took what I had laying around.

    Maybe i'll try that sensor in combination with a brushless motor or use the bearings and axle from a HDD for my next wind vane, don't really need the extra resolution, but hopefully it's a longer lasting solution.

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    0 mcb1 over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Gents

    Just some information regarding bearings and lubrication.

     

    We were experiencing premature bearing failures in fans and anemometers, despite the installed ones lasting many years.

    It was traced to the lubrication, and the newer synthetic oils had a shelf life of 1 year before they separated.

     

    There service life was huge, but shelf life was 1 year, and once the bearings had been lubricated and sitting on the shelf for a year, they were effectively expired.

    The solution was replacing them with items less than 3 months old, and the bearing issues went away.

     

     

    So for your projects using something that's been lying around may not work, and if you can, flush out the old lubricant and replace it.

    Mark

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi just reading an old post on building a wind vane with rotary encoder. I was wondering if you would mind sharing your code. I am currently doing a similar project and would love to see what you came up with. This could certainly give me a jump start on my project.Thanks Seth.

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