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Trying to understand NFC ASK Modulation

BigG
BigG over 2 years ago

According to my Google search, NFC uses ASK modulation to transmit data:

https://www.rfwireless-world.com/Tutorials/NFC-Near-Field-Communication-tutorial.html

https://www.rfwireless-world.com/Tutorials/NFC-Modulation-and-NFC-Coding.html

Which I have interpreted as the following where the "Mixing Circuit" includes the NFC tuned antenna and two picoFarad capacitors... but what else is needed.

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As a non electronics engineer I am trying to work out a minimum circuit required.

Then my lofty intentions is to use a Raspberry Pi Pico to generate my clock signal using PIO and as there is also a Manchester Encoding PIO example, I will attempt to use that too.

So could this work, I wonder?

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 2 years ago +3
    I'm far from being an expert, but this is my understanding of the basic principles in case it helps (this is 20 years out of date, but the basic stuff won't have changed too much). I think I'm duplicating…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 2 years ago +2
    This will be harder than you think ! A long time ago (2006) I did work designing antennae for MIFARE (same thing, more or less) and it's quite tricky. NXP still are fairly active in this field and…
  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago +2
    It is possible for sure, but its not really a project I would recommend taking on without an oscilloscope. So if your looking for an excuse to purchase an MXO4 scope, id say go for it ;) I am Rx/Tx…
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  • michaelkellett
    0 michaelkellett over 2 years ago

    This will be harder than you think !

    A long time ago (2006) I did work designing antennae for MIFARE (same thing, more or less) and it's quite tricky.

    NXP still are fairly active in this field and you can learn a lot from reading their app notes and data sheets, Here's a start:

    https://www.nxp.com/products/rfid-nfc/nfc-hf/nfc-readers/nfc-cortex-m0-all-in-one-microcontroller-with-optional-contact-interface-for-access-control:PN7462

    The antenna was two turns on a pcb (inner layers)  with earth shielding layers on both sides of the board and multiple vias to stich them togethher. There as a multi component passive matching network with an adjustable tuning cap. The pcb needed non standard layer stackup to work and we were discussing fine tuning the design of coil, copper thickness and pcb layer thicknesses. All backed up by impedance measurements with a home made network analyser (computer + sig gen + scope + active analogue interface pcb.

    Sorry, can't post pics because customer might object (although they might not still exist  - actually they do, just checked and the two guys I worked with then are still there !).

    MK

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    0 michaelkellett over 2 years ago

    This will be harder than you think !

    A long time ago (2006) I did work designing antennae for MIFARE (same thing, more or less) and it's quite tricky.

    NXP still are fairly active in this field and you can learn a lot from reading their app notes and data sheets, Here's a start:

    https://www.nxp.com/products/rfid-nfc/nfc-hf/nfc-readers/nfc-cortex-m0-all-in-one-microcontroller-with-optional-contact-interface-for-access-control:PN7462

    The antenna was two turns on a pcb (inner layers)  with earth shielding layers on both sides of the board and multiple vias to stich them togethher. There as a multi component passive matching network with an adjustable tuning cap. The pcb needed non standard layer stackup to work and we were discussing fine tuning the design of coil, copper thickness and pcb layer thicknesses. All backed up by impedance measurements with a home made network analyser (computer + sig gen + scope + active analogue interface pcb.

    Sorry, can't post pics because customer might object (although they might not still exist  - actually they do, just checked and the two guys I worked with then are still there !).

    MK

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