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How do I repair our Polder thermometer display?

hafcanadian
hafcanadian 3 days ago

The display on our Polder thermometer loses most of its crystals.  I thought I could open it up and just wipe its “zebra” contacts, but they seem to be taped over and not subject to contamination.  Plus, the crystals respond if I press on the sandwiched glass sheets.  Do I try separating the sheets to inspect contact points, or is this repair not worth attempting?

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  • dougw
    dougw 3 days ago +2
    Have you tried pressing right on the zebra connector area? Your first instinct was likely correct - poor contact on some of the zebra contacts. It is tough to keep uniform pressure all the way along a…
  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui 3 days ago +1
    It's unlikely to be a problem with the LCD glass sandwich and it's more likely a failure of the LCD self-adhesive ribbon which is stuck down with adhesive in this type of assembly. The only way you can…
  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 2 days ago +1
    I recall something similar cropping up on the community forum a while back. You can get anisotropic conductive film tape: https://www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/p/d/v000073742/ if you can manage to separate…
  • dougw
    dougw 3 days ago

    Have you tried pressing right on the zebra connector area? Your first instinct was likely correct - poor contact on some of the zebra contacts. It is tough to keep uniform pressure all the way along a long zerba connector. In some plastic cases you can put a shim to keep more pressure on some area that is not making good contact.

    I don't think it is possible to successfully re-assemble the liquid crystal sandwich if you take it apart. I would try contact cleaner on the connections or some way of applying pressure.

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  • Gough Lui
    Gough Lui 3 days ago

    It's unlikely to be a problem with the LCD glass sandwich and it's more likely a failure of the LCD self-adhesive ribbon which is stuck down with adhesive in this type of assembly.

    The only way you can remedy this is to use a brand-new self-adhesive ribbon film and get a perfect alignment, squeegeeing the film down as you go. They're fiddly in my experience with constructing this kit which uses a similar type of connection: https://goughlui.com/2016/10/15/project-cd2003gpsc3610d-fm-receiver-wlcd-alarm-clock-74-108mhz/

    Not sure where one can purchase such film though .. so if carefully pressing down on the joint doesn't restore the display for long, then there's not much one can really do. In a pinch, you could try doing something mildly mechanical (e.g. use a bulldog clip and some paper to distribute a clamping force across the contact area) as a kludge.

    - Gough

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 2 days ago

    I recall something similar cropping up on the community forum a while back.

    You can get anisotropic conductive film tape: 

    https://www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/p/d/v000073742/

    if you can manage to separate and clean up the existing connection which usually requires a bit of heat eg:

    "Bonds made with 3MTm Anisotropic Condustive Film Adhesive 7303 are repairable
    by heating the bond-line to above 100°C (e.g. with a hot plate or rework tool) and
    peeling the circuits apart. The bond site then requires cleaning with a solvent, after
    which the circuit can be re-bonded using a fresh piece of ACF 7303. Solvents such
    as 3MTm NovecTm Engineered Fluid HFE-72DA or Acetone may be used."

    There was a tutorial showing someone doing this type of repair, which might be worth a search for. 

    You probably want to practise a few times on another disposable device first though as it looks a bit tricky.

    Adafruit do 'Z axis' anisotropic tape in smaller quantities:

    https://www.adafruit.com/product/1656

    I also recall there being flexible splices available with the anisotropic tape pre-attached either end, which allow you to re-terminate the ribbon if the end is damaged.    

    You can also get T-bar tips for soldering irons that help with such repairs:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/CITALL-Soldering-T-iron-Ribbon-Repair/dp/B07BBMD8DW

    in which case a quick reheat followed by some pressure might do the trick, or alternatively help with removal without damage ready for clean-up and new tape.

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  • DAB
    DAB 2 days ago

    This is a common problem with these displays.

    They almost always degrade with time.

    The connections corrode and contact is lost, either in the connector or the device itself.

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  • colporteur
    colporteur 5 hours ago in reply to beacon_dave

    BD I had to go get the dictionary "anisotropic conductive film tape" where do you get this stuff. Awesome!

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 3 hours ago in reply to colporteur

    I keep it filed next to the elastomeric connectors, which are then collectively filed under 'weird stuff'...

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