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Nintendo 64 PAL – No Signal After Reassembly

kiltro
kiltro 1 month ago

Hello everyone!

I have a PAL Nintendo 64 with the following issue.

When I first received the console, I disassembled and cleaned it. It worked fine.

Video quality was not great, so I replaced all electrolytic capacitors. The console still worked and I could play games.

After final reassembly in it's case, it started showing “No Signal.”

What I did so far:

Disassembled again, this time also removing heatsinks.

Cleaned everything again: card slot, AV cable, jumper pack contacts (even with 800-grit sandpaper).

Reflowed electrolytic capacitors and main chips: CPU, RCP, PIF, DENC, and jumper pack connector pins.

Tested various points with oscilloscope (I can share waveforms if needed).

Swapped my Expansion Pak with a new Jumper Pak.

Replaced power supply.

AV cable is brand new, so I don't think this is the cause.

Tried inserting/removing cartridge and jumper pack while powered on (as suggested in some threads).

At this point the console still gives no video output at all.

I was hoping that someone can give me some advice or is available to make a comparison between the measurements made on a working console and mine


Here are measurements (in the Gsheet file) and other related stuff

drive.google.com/.../1_iCxMZg6JVUPDNlzgr-V5CmYrW0aUk71


Schematic of one of the NTSC versions. From what I see what differs from mine is from the video encoder to the output connector.

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  • dang74
    dang74 1 month ago in reply to kiltro +1 verified
    I have an NTSC version of the N64. I will pull it out of storage and see what's involved in taking it apart. Of course there could be a discrepancy between our waveforms just by virtue of one being PAL…
  • dang74
    dang74 1 month ago in reply to kiltro +1
    It occurred to me that I need a special screw driver to take the case apart. I've ordered the 4.5mm game bit screw driver last night. In terms of basic functionality I observed the following: There was…
  • dang74
    dang74 21 days ago in reply to kiltro +1
    Okay, a more substantial update for you. I took the N64 apart today. The encoder I have is the AVDC-NUS. I did some probing with no cartridge and no jumper pack installed. I will add a disclaimer here…
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    0 kiltro 24 days ago

    dang74 Sorry to bother you, do you have any updates?

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    0 dang74 21 days ago in reply to kiltro

    Okay, a more substantial update for you.  I took the N64 apart today.  The encoder I have is the AVDC-NUS.  I did some probing with no cartridge and no jumper pack installed.  I will add a disclaimer here.  I have an old 50MHz analog scope so these pulse trains are at the limit of scope"s capability.  In fact instead of square waves I was seeing triangular peaks.  Anyway, the pins that correspond to D0 through D3 had the same type of signal... and in my judgment their duty cycle was less than 50%.  The pins that correspond to D4 through D7 were 0V flat line.  The pin that corresponds to the SYNC signal had an AC waveform.  It's duty cycle was greater than that overserved on D0 through D3.  The pin that is supposed to be the clock had a sine wave.  I suppose it's really a square wave but due to the limitations of my scope I observed it as a sine wave.  My observations are more or less consistent with yours... it's very possible that all your electronics are fine but a poor contact with the jumper pack or cartridge is messing things up.

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    0 dang74 10 days ago in reply to kiltro

    Okay, I will check tonight.  If you are getting activity D4-D6 that is a good sign.... and maybe an older CRT that doesn't go blue at the smallest issue can give some clues.

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    0 kiltro 10 days ago in reply to dang74

    I'm not. That's why I'm asking if you are sure there is on yours

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    0 acdc90 10 days ago in reply to dang74

    I was expecting that with out a cartridge you would have a composite signal on the video out put cable including vertical and horizontal sync which would produce a blank page on the tv then  Kiltro could check for the same, this could be measured with a 5mhz scope (anilog or digital) and elimites stuff,

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    0 dang74 9 days ago in reply to dang74

    Well I tried probing D4-D6 with cartridge and jumper pack installed.. and I did see some activity... but when I reset its low again... so it's possible that the act of probing is disruptive.

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    0 dang74 9 days ago in reply to acdc90

    Just measured this now.  When there is no cartridge there is no synch signals.  In fact there is no signal at all.  The image below is what you see when the cartridge and jumper pack are installed.image

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    0 kiltro 9 days ago in reply to acdc90

    However I don't see a blank page on the screen, I actually get the message "no signal". So there is no signal at all.

    I've a 100MHz digital one. I'm not able to trigger to anything useful on the output connector, but maybe I'm setting it wrong. I'm not used to video signals

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    0 kiltro 9 days ago in reply to dang74

    I see, I will check again on my oscope but I think I dont have those. For reference, can you give me your scope settings for this wave?

    BTW I'm still searching for a CRT screen

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    0 dang74 9 days ago in reply to kiltro

    I'll get back to you on the scope settings... but I think your difficulty in triggering is probably because there is no signal... so you might hold off on the CRT unless you want one anyway... which I do.... anyway I was looking at your photos that you made available... and I think you might have a solder bridge between pin 105 and 106 of U10.  Zoom into your first picture and look at the bottom row and you will see what I mean.

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  • kiltro
    0 kiltro 9 days ago in reply to dang74

    Hmm, I'll check right away when I get home, but it's probably just a little dust. I've checked several times.
    At this point, though, I'm really hoping it's a solder bridge... lol

    BTW Thanks for all your help!

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    0 acdc90 9 days ago in reply to kiltro

    try reading this 

    https://www.retrosix.wiki/composite-cvbs

    i just wanted to confirm signal with no cartridge

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    0 acdc90 9 days ago in reply to kiltro

    try reading this 

    https://www.retrosix.wiki/composite-cvbs

    i just wanted to confirm signal with no cartridge

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