"You Bought It, but Do You Own It?"

although replying to the 1`st post here, I have read the comments made thus far, and think there is or at least was just a level of missunderstanding, I am against this sort of activity where it is clearly to Profit from in terms of cash/finance where you`re too lazy to write your own code and so forth.

allow me to qualify this, a Long time ago I bought a BBC Micro (and many other computers too), back in those days you could pull the ROM out the machine and read it, even the VIC20 cartridges etc...

now to Copy those and use them or modify them for your own use and experimentation was perfectly fine back in the day, probably not Ecouraged, and certainly there was a level of Honor and Trust even with software (I have some here from 1993 that ASKS that you do not distribute this), Selling the stuff was just simply a NO-NO!

so I have to fall into the Open Source camp here, Yes it IS wrong to rip and sell the stuff, but if you can`t do Entirely what you want with a device that paid for, then NO, you do Not own it!

esp with all this new "Dial home" rubbish that will actively seek and destry anything You did, and still has the "right?" to disable your device remotely!

awww c`mon man! you can NOT seriously in good conscience say that it`s a Fair and Right thing!? can you?

I grew up with the philosophy that if you can`t fix a thing when it breaks, don`t buy it!

"No User servicable parts inside" was an open challenge to do just that, pop the lid and see just what nothing servicable really meant, and up until these silly TSSOP thingies and smaller came about, it remained False for the most part and ALL was quite fixable.

so yeah, theft is theft, and as such is completely wrong, but the idea of OWNing a thing that you`ve paid for in good faith should also mean just that, else it should be called leasing or Renting, and NOT Marketed as something other than this.

then folks could vote with their feet, and simply Not buy this rubbish to start with and force these lender/"indian givers" into a rethink.

and for the record, I would Gladly share ANY of my work and Code with anyone that wanted access no matter how long and hard I worked on it for, the worst it could do is confuse someone, and best there would be 2 or more devices like it on Earth

although replying to the 1`st post here, I have read the comments made thus far, and think there is or at least was just a level of missunderstanding, I am against this sort of activity where it is clearly to Profit from in terms of cash/finance where you`re too lazy to write your own code and so forth.

allow me to qualify this, a Long time ago I bought a BBC Micro (and many other computers too), back in those days you could pull the ROM out the machine and read it, even the VIC20 cartridges etc...

now to Copy those and use them or modify them for your own use and experimentation was perfectly fine back in the day, probably not Ecouraged, and certainly there was a level of Honor and Trust even with software (I have some here from 1993 that ASKS that you do not distribute this), Selling the stuff was just simply a NO-NO!

so I have to fall into the Open Source camp here, Yes it IS wrong to rip and sell the stuff, but if you can`t do Entirely what you want with a device that paid for, then NO, you do Not own it!

esp with all this new "Dial home" rubbish that will actively seek and destry anything You did, and still has the "right?" to disable your device remotely!

awww c`mon man! you can NOT seriously in good conscience say that it`s a Fair and Right thing!? can you?

I grew up with the philosophy that if you can`t fix a thing when it breaks, don`t buy it!

"No User servicable parts inside" was an open challenge to do just that, pop the lid and see just what nothing servicable really meant, and up until these silly TSSOP thingies and smaller came about, it remained False for the most part and ALL was quite fixable.

so yeah, theft is theft, and as such is completely wrong, but the idea of OWNing a thing that you`ve paid for in good faith should also mean just that, else it should be called leasing or Renting, and NOT Marketed as something other than this.

then folks could vote with their feet, and simply Not buy this rubbish to start with and force these lender/"indian givers" into a rethink.

and for the record, I would Gladly share ANY of my work and Code with anyone that wanted access no matter how long and hard I worked on it for, the worst it could do is confuse someone, and best there would be 2 or more devices like it on Earth