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Charging two 3.7v Li-Ion Cells

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Former Member over 10 years ago

So for a portable project, I will be using two lithium ion 2200mah 3.7v batteries in series to give me 7.4v. I have a USB powered 3.7v Lithium Ion charger found here https://www.adafruit.com/products/1905 . How could I charge both the batteries in parallel and then use them in series for 7.4v?

 

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to dougw +2
    I see some problems with this idea - if one battery is at a significantly different state of charge and thus voltage form the other (and this happens as the batteries age) then a huge current will flow…
  • Kilohercas
    Kilohercas over 10 years ago in reply to derkarhu +1
    You can also make very expensive circuit for battery charging, with CCCV push/pull 3A converters, just treat them as capacitors http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/datasheet/8052ff.pdf Super-capacitors are equivalent…
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  • dougw
    dougw over 10 years ago

    You can use a double pole, double throw switch to switch from parallel to series, or you could use 4 transistors if you need to do it under digital control.

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    michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to dougw

    I see some problems with this idea - if one battery is at a significantly different state of charge and thus voltage form the other (and this happens as the batteries age) then a huge current will flow when the switch is set to parallel operation for charging. If the batteries have internal overcurrent protection this will be triggered - if not then some bad things may happen.

     

    There is no easy way to do the switching from series to parallel connection- how about using the batteries in parallel all the time and using a boost convertor to get the battery voltage up to the system working voltage ?

     

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    michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to dougw

    I see some problems with this idea - if one battery is at a significantly different state of charge and thus voltage form the other (and this happens as the batteries age) then a huge current will flow when the switch is set to parallel operation for charging. If the batteries have internal overcurrent protection this will be triggered - if not then some bad things may happen.

     

    There is no easy way to do the switching from series to parallel connection- how about using the batteries in parallel all the time and using a boost convertor to get the battery voltage up to the system working voltage ?

     

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  • dougw
    dougw over 10 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Some good points articulated by Michael, and you definitely always need to be careful when dealing with high energy density devices like lithium batteries. I have seen some of them puff up like balloons - I'm not sure if they were charged in reverse or were over charged since I didn't connect them, but it was a most un-nerving sight to come across.

    However, if you want to push a bit beyond the traditional safety rules, I have found it hard to fast-charge 3.7V Li-Po batteries because you can apply a full 3.7 volts to a depleted battery and it won't draw more than 1 amp and even then the current rapidly drops to a half amp. So my batteries wouldn't be damaged by parallel connection, but you need to do your homework on your batteries with a current-limited supply and understand their performance before designing them into a system. For example, shorting a battery is probably much worse than connecting two in parallel and an appropriate fuse might be prudent whether you connect in parallel or not.

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