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Current sense transformer for an energy meter.

KennyMillar
KennyMillar over 15 years ago

Hi,

 

I'm looking for some help choosing a good current sense transformer for an energy meter product I'm working on.

 

The device will switch on/off up to 8 IEC Outlets at UK Mains voltage. It will also monitor, and record, the current going through each outlet.

It's the current monitoring side of things I'd like to ask about.

 

I guess there is really two approaches to this. i)Shunt resistor ii)Current transformer. - Am I right so far?

 

I opened the clamp that comes with my BritishGas energy smart meter and it uses a current transformer. Some basic tests with my 'scope suggest it outputs approximately 1mV per Watt.

 

Now, looking at the current sense transformers available at uk.farnell.com I see there are basically two types - ones where you basically run a physical wire through the middle of a board mounted transformer, like this http://uk.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/thumbnail/145486507-40.jpg (farnell # 1454873 and similar) and ones where you form the primary circuit through pads on the board, like this : http://uk.farnell.com/productimages/farnell/thumbnail/1579326-40.jpg (farnell # 1579333).

 

Personally I'd prefer to use the second type if I can.

The trouble is there is quite a wide range of these on Farnell, and I need some help selecting the correct one. So here are the requirments:

Maximum of 2kW power draw, but normally each outlet will be providing only about 60W - 100W, and I still need to be fairly accurate down to low current draws of say 1W to 4W.  (The client wants to be able to detect if a unit is operating, is in standby or is off/missing)

 

So can you help me select a transformer which can handle the maximum current, yet still be accurate at low power levels.

 

Or, maybe you can tell me I've got it all wrong and need a different approach completely!

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago

    Hi Kenny,

     

    I'm with a magnetics company in the US. We manufacture the two types of CT that you are interested in. I would like to point out that the two current sense transformers that you listed on your post are designed for high frequency applications. I assume that you want to monitor a 230VAC, 50Hz line, correct? Typically, the difference between the two is the linearity of the output. The toroidal (donut) shaped transformers are usually more linear than the square (E&I) shape transformers, specially a lower current levels. The main reason for this is that the toroidal transformers have a higher permeability core. Higher permeability means higher inductance and higher inductance means less magnetizing current that reduces your input current that you are trying to monitor. In any case, you may be able to compensate in software for either type. A shunt can also be used if you are not concerned with wasted power; therefore, it this is a concern you evaluate the power dissipation of the shunt versus that of the transformer.  You can check out our CSE18L (E&I) or our CST-1005 (toroidal) current sense transformers on Farnell's website. Please note that the turns ratio for the CSE187L should be 1:500. There is an error on Farnell's website.

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    0 KennyMillar over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I looked at the parts you mentioned and they seem good for my purposes :-)

    However, they are US Stock only which means an extra £15.95 per order - which is a significant cost when I'm only looking for 4 of them!

     

    I wonder if we could encourage Farnell UK to stock them, since I reckon this will be a growth product over the next few years.

     

    Cheers!

     

    -Kenny

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    0 KennyMillar over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member

    I looked at the parts you mentioned and they seem good for my purposes :-)

    However, they are US Stock only which means an extra £15.95 per order - which is a significant cost when I'm only looking for 4 of them!

     

    I wonder if we could encourage Farnell UK to stock them, since I reckon this will be a growth product over the next few years.

     

    Cheers!

     

    -Kenny

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    0 Former Member over 15 years ago in reply to KennyMillar

    Future Electronics appears to have stock of the CSE187L in UK.

     

    http://uk.futureelectronics.com/en/Technologies/Product.aspx?ProductID=CSE187LTRIADMAGNETICS1853126

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    0 KennyMillar over 15 years ago in reply to Former Member
    Huge thanks!
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