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Charging Lithium Ion batteries using a bicycle.

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Former Member over 12 years ago

So, I am working on my own bicycle computer project, and I want to make it entirely self contained. Ive been browsing different way to generate power on a bicycle, and the common denominator of all of them is that the power is very inconistently generated. If you're moving fast, you are generating more power then when you are riding slow. I am trying to come up with a way to take this variable input, and effectively, and safely charge some Lithium Ion batteries.

 

One of the first things that stood out, was this solar charging circuit from adafruit. (http://www.adafruit.com/products/390) I assume the output ofa solar panel does vary a lot, so it would seem logical that I could modify this to work. They also have this slightly more basic version, but I am not sure how it would function in my project. (http://www.adafruit.com/products/259)

 

Lastly, I have seen a few very minimalistic options, but not specifically tailored to what I am doing.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nGrcR030R8) I assume in this case that the phone handles the charging phases of the Lithium Ion battery, so hooking one direcctly to it would be a bad call.

 

I was hoping someone might be able to give me some insight on what I need to do. Thanks for the time guys!

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to johnbeetem +1
    Im looking into this really cool dynamo hubs , and from everything I have seen, they have come a long way from the original bottle shaped friction generators.
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    0 johnbeetem over 12 years ago

    I'd suggest looking at super-capacitors.  I'm not an expert, but I think they can handle surges of power better than batteries and probably have plenty of capacity for a low-power computer and LCD display.

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    0 johnbeetem over 12 years ago

    I'd suggest looking at super-capacitors.  I'm not an expert, but I think they can handle surges of power better than batteries and probably have plenty of capacity for a low-power computer and LCD display.

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    0 michaelkellett over 12 years ago in reply to johnbeetem

    The problem with super caps is the truly dreadful cost per joule stored and low capacity.

     

    Buying from Farnell a reasonable supr caps is:

     

     

      COOPER BUSSMANN - XV3550-2R7307-R - CAPACITOR, SUPER, 300F, 2.7V, EDLC

     

     

    COOPER BUSSMANNXV3550-2R7307-R
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    Please refer to product description

     

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    Manufacturer:
    COOPER BUSSMANN
    Order Code:
    2148519
    Manufacturer Part No:
    XV3550-2R7307-R

     

    Technical Data Sheet (264.01KB) EN
    Technical Data Sheet (264.01KB) EN

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    Product Information

    • CAPACITOR, SUPER, 300F, 2.7V, EDLC
    • Capacitance:300F
    • Capacitance Tolerance:+10%, -5%
    • Voltage Rating:2.7V

     

     

     

    Using three in series and working on a maximum of 2.4 V per cell you can store (7.2 * 7.2 * 100)/2 = 2592J but you can only usefully extract power down to 2V so the useful energy is 200J less : ie 2392J. The caps cost £12.10 each so the cost of three will be £36.30

     

    Using lithium ion you could use Farnell part:

     

     

    ENIX ENERGIES - 700001 - BATTERY, LI-ION, 3.75V, 2.2AH, PK

     

     

    ENIX ENERGIES700001
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    Manufacturer:
    ENIX ENERGIES
    Order Code:
    1290995
    Manufacturer Part No:
    700001

     

    Technical Data Sheet (147.83KB) EN
    Technical Data Sheet (147.83KB) EN

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    Product Information

    • BATTERY, LI-ION, 3.75V, 2.2AH, PK
    • Battery Size Code:(Not Applicable)
    • Battery Capacity:2.2Ah
    • Battery Voltage:3.75V
    • Battery Technology:Lithium Ion

     

     

    These are £19.92 each and store about 2.2 * 3.4 * 3600  = 26928 J. (The 3.4V is my estimate of a reasonable average voltage during  a complete discharge cycle).

     

    The capacitors can take charge faster than the lithium batteries but you pay a massive price in money and capacity. The charge/discharge regulator for the capacitors is more complicated as well since the voltage swings over  a much wider range.

     

    Super cap: £15.18 per kJoule

    LIon:     £0.740 per kJoule

     

    You can get LIon cells for much less from other sources.

     

    I can't advise the OP on  a charger without knowing the power consumption of the computer and the endurance on battery power that is required.

     

    MK

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    0 Former Member over 12 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    For this particular project, so far I have my arduino and a small 16x2 lcd screen. I plan to take the atmega out of the arduino and run it on a protoboard (for the sake of not dedicating my arduino for this project). I dont plan on adding anything else that would take up much more power.

     

    LCD QC1602A v2 - www.e-licktronic.com/attachment.php?id_attachment=20

    atmega328p - https://www.sparkfun.com/datasheets/Components/SMD/ATMega328.pdf

     

    Small edit: I have always wanted to be able to effectively charge my phone on my bicycle also, so ideally I could do that off of these batteries also.

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