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What is the least utilized energy wasted by humans?

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Former Member over 11 years ago

First I will warn you that I am an architect by training; a 'problem solver', but not an electrical engineer.  So please bear with my different way of explaining my ideas.

Two years ago a public television program in the U.S. told how "reCaptchas" were the idea of a young professor at Carnegie Mellon University.  He was frustrated at the idea of millions of people wasting a few precious seconds every time they had to type the strange nonsense letters required by websites, in order to defeat bot programs accessing their website.

Rather than wasting this mental energy worldwide, he suggested using the text which was illegible to computers which were digitizing every book ever written. 

Suddenly the efforts to digitize the world's written texts were expedited 1000%, all because a few moments of mental energy had been captured from millions of people.

 

Using this train of thought... why must power come from large dams, solar arrays, wind generators?  Why not small bits of energy produced by millions. 

For the present, we see the greatest amount of clean energy coming from hydro-electric dams.  The heat of the sun lifts water from the oceans to the sky and the rain falls, filling rivers with this huge potential energy we capture with our great dams.

 

Likewise, the sun grows the crops humans eat, giving them the energy to walk, lifting their weight with each step and letting gravity pull them back to earth.

Harvest that energy wasted in every footfall with a mechanical, chemical, pressure or motion powered device built into the heel of a shoe.

Then every step taken by a man would be capable of perhaps charging a battery, or a phone or a light.

The people who walk the most, in the under-developed countries of the world, would see the greatest benefit.

 

This could be an attachment to a shoe, but built into the shoe would be best.  There are already available cheap hand-powered flashlights operated by lever action.

A smaller, version of this with proper electronic modules should be able to send the power to a battery or at least a USB plug.

 

As I said, I am not an electrical engineer, nor a shoe manufacturer nor an entrepreneur, so I thought one of you might take up the idea, or suggest some other venue where I might send this proposal.

Wouldn't it be nice if Nike liked the idea?

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    0 michaelkellett over 11 years ago

    It doesn't look good if you apply some maths.

     

    Suppose you crush down 0.5cm on each step (this will feel rather weird) and the force is 25kg (generous I think) - that's 25 * 9.8 * 0.005 J per step = 1.2J. About 2000J per km. 20km per day (your'e very active) = 40kJ per day.

     

    A 200W desktop PC burns 720kJ per hour, an electric kettle 120kJ per minute.

    The amounts of energy you could get from people are far too small to be a serious source of power compared with global energy use.

     

    MK

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Michael,  thanks for the quick reply!  (and two more comments!  Element14 rocks!)

    I was pleased to see someone work out the math, even if it seemed disappointing in the results. 

    Firstly... I wondered why the figure you used for force was 25Kg. 

    I weigh about 220# or 100Kg; so wouldn't that create a crushing force of 100Kg with each step of the heel, rather than 25?

    Secondly... would the resulting energy total be able to at least re-charge, let's say an AA size battery or two?  While that is

    too little energy by itself to solve world energy needs, it might be enough to power a radio or a light for a person in a remote area.

    Thirdly and lastly... If, say 1 billion people could charge 1 or 2  AA batteries everyday, it seems to me it would be a net gain for world energy sources.

    Thanks...  Frank Whitington

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    0 michaelkellett over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hello Frank,

     

    I used 25kg because mostly people don't step down on heel or toe with their full weight on each step. My numbers are pretty rough and I made no allowance for losses in the energy conversion system either. The numbers are so bad it isn't worth worrying about getting the estimate any more accurate.

     

    I'm with Dab on this - with technology we actually can do now we should build lots of nice safe modern nukes and start running cars from methanol which we can make from atmospherric CO", water and energy from nukes, wind or solar. That way we can use our existing infrasturctre to distubute the vehicle fuel, store energy from generators that like to make it either whene the wind blows or the sun shines or just all the time. The CO2 + energy -> alcohol -> internal combustion -> C02 cycle is viable but for some reason rarely discussed. Hydrogen and batteries to power cars are not economically viable and require that all cars and fule distribution infrastructure be replaced.

     

    MK

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    0 michaelkellett over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hello Frank,

     

    I used 25kg because mostly people don't step down on heel or toe with their full weight on each step. My numbers are pretty rough and I made no allowance for losses in the energy conversion system either. The numbers are so bad it isn't worth worrying about getting the estimate any more accurate.

     

    I'm with Dab on this - with technology we actually can do now we should build lots of nice safe modern nukes and start running cars from methanol which we can make from atmospherric CO", water and energy from nukes, wind or solar. That way we can use our existing infrasturctre to distubute the vehicle fuel, store energy from generators that like to make it either whene the wind blows or the sun shines or just all the time. The CO2 + energy -> alcohol -> internal combustion -> C02 cycle is viable but for some reason rarely discussed. Hydrogen and batteries to power cars are not economically viable and require that all cars and fule distribution infrastructure be replaced.

     

    MK

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