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What is the least utilized energy wasted by humans?

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Former Member over 11 years ago

First I will warn you that I am an architect by training; a 'problem solver', but not an electrical engineer.  So please bear with my different way of explaining my ideas.

Two years ago a public television program in the U.S. told how "reCaptchas" were the idea of a young professor at Carnegie Mellon University.  He was frustrated at the idea of millions of people wasting a few precious seconds every time they had to type the strange nonsense letters required by websites, in order to defeat bot programs accessing their website.

Rather than wasting this mental energy worldwide, he suggested using the text which was illegible to computers which were digitizing every book ever written. 

Suddenly the efforts to digitize the world's written texts were expedited 1000%, all because a few moments of mental energy had been captured from millions of people.

 

Using this train of thought... why must power come from large dams, solar arrays, wind generators?  Why not small bits of energy produced by millions. 

For the present, we see the greatest amount of clean energy coming from hydro-electric dams.  The heat of the sun lifts water from the oceans to the sky and the rain falls, filling rivers with this huge potential energy we capture with our great dams.

 

Likewise, the sun grows the crops humans eat, giving them the energy to walk, lifting their weight with each step and letting gravity pull them back to earth.

Harvest that energy wasted in every footfall with a mechanical, chemical, pressure or motion powered device built into the heel of a shoe.

Then every step taken by a man would be capable of perhaps charging a battery, or a phone or a light.

The people who walk the most, in the under-developed countries of the world, would see the greatest benefit.

 

This could be an attachment to a shoe, but built into the shoe would be best.  There are already available cheap hand-powered flashlights operated by lever action.

A smaller, version of this with proper electronic modules should be able to send the power to a battery or at least a USB plug.

 

As I said, I am not an electrical engineer, nor a shoe manufacturer nor an entrepreneur, so I thought one of you might take up the idea, or suggest some other venue where I might send this proposal.

Wouldn't it be nice if Nike liked the idea?

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    0 michaelkellett over 11 years ago

    It doesn't look good if you apply some maths.

     

    Suppose you crush down 0.5cm on each step (this will feel rather weird) and the force is 25kg (generous I think) - that's 25 * 9.8 * 0.005 J per step = 1.2J. About 2000J per km. 20km per day (your'e very active) = 40kJ per day.

     

    A 200W desktop PC burns 720kJ per hour, an electric kettle 120kJ per minute.

    The amounts of energy you could get from people are far too small to be a serious source of power compared with global energy use.

     

    MK

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    0 DAB over 11 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Hi Mike,

     

    You are correct.  Just about every alternative energy sources is so small that the economics just do not make sense.

     

    Energy collection and distribution needs to go big or go home.  I like the idea of wave power, but people will probably object to losing their surfing spots.

    We could do a lot more hydroelectric systems, but people object to losing their wild rivers.

     

    There are a lot of options still, but people are going to have to decide what is more important.  When I see people cutting their energy use, then I will think we have reached a limit for energy production.  Until then, we will just have to use the normal energy sources until they run out.

     

    There are safe ways to do thermonuclear power, but everyone freaks when its mentioned.

    Sigh

    DAB

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to DAB

    Dab,  Thanks for the comment. 

    A retired engineer in New Mexico crafted a horizontal pinwheel wind generator

    for the roof of a building at his remote property and produced enough power to

    sell it back to the utility company.  It made the front page of the Albuquerque

    newspaper as I recall.  He made the windmill blades out of cheap corrugated metal roofing

    and it looked to be about 12 feet in diameter. 

    So, couldn't a lot of similar small generators produce a significant amount of power?

    Electricity should not have to be purchased entirely from corporations capable of

    building the monster wind generators.

    Frank Whitington

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    0 DAB over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Frank,

     

    While you can generate more energy from wind than you consume, what do you do when there is no wind?

    Hence the dilemma.  Power companies have a charter to provide continuous power to their customers.

    Wind and solar can both provide auxiliary power, but you still need an instant on power source for the times when neither auxiliary source is sufficient.

     

    Using a large number of smaller generators is a very good idea.  They provide local support when the overall power grid is under stress or recovering from damage.

     

    There are many things we can do to improve power generation, distribution and reliability.  That said, we also then require that the local users maintain their local generators.

    That's the problem.  Maintenance cost sky rocket when you have a lot of smaller systems instead of one large system.  The efficiencies just do not scale well.

     

    DAB

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    0 DAB over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Frank,

     

    While you can generate more energy from wind than you consume, what do you do when there is no wind?

    Hence the dilemma.  Power companies have a charter to provide continuous power to their customers.

    Wind and solar can both provide auxiliary power, but you still need an instant on power source for the times when neither auxiliary source is sufficient.

     

    Using a large number of smaller generators is a very good idea.  They provide local support when the overall power grid is under stress or recovering from damage.

     

    There are many things we can do to improve power generation, distribution and reliability.  That said, we also then require that the local users maintain their local generators.

    That's the problem.  Maintenance cost sky rocket when you have a lot of smaller systems instead of one large system.  The efficiencies just do not scale well.

     

    DAB

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