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What is the least utilized energy wasted by humans?

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Former Member over 11 years ago

First I will warn you that I am an architect by training; a 'problem solver', but not an electrical engineer.  So please bear with my different way of explaining my ideas.

Two years ago a public television program in the U.S. told how "reCaptchas" were the idea of a young professor at Carnegie Mellon University.  He was frustrated at the idea of millions of people wasting a few precious seconds every time they had to type the strange nonsense letters required by websites, in order to defeat bot programs accessing their website.

Rather than wasting this mental energy worldwide, he suggested using the text which was illegible to computers which were digitizing every book ever written. 

Suddenly the efforts to digitize the world's written texts were expedited 1000%, all because a few moments of mental energy had been captured from millions of people.

 

Using this train of thought... why must power come from large dams, solar arrays, wind generators?  Why not small bits of energy produced by millions. 

For the present, we see the greatest amount of clean energy coming from hydro-electric dams.  The heat of the sun lifts water from the oceans to the sky and the rain falls, filling rivers with this huge potential energy we capture with our great dams.

 

Likewise, the sun grows the crops humans eat, giving them the energy to walk, lifting their weight with each step and letting gravity pull them back to earth.

Harvest that energy wasted in every footfall with a mechanical, chemical, pressure or motion powered device built into the heel of a shoe.

Then every step taken by a man would be capable of perhaps charging a battery, or a phone or a light.

The people who walk the most, in the under-developed countries of the world, would see the greatest benefit.

 

This could be an attachment to a shoe, but built into the shoe would be best.  There are already available cheap hand-powered flashlights operated by lever action.

A smaller, version of this with proper electronic modules should be able to send the power to a battery or at least a USB plug.

 

As I said, I am not an electrical engineer, nor a shoe manufacturer nor an entrepreneur, so I thought one of you might take up the idea, or suggest some other venue where I might send this proposal.

Wouldn't it be nice if Nike liked the idea?

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    0 dougw over 11 years ago

    The question seems to be evolving into how to harvest energy from walking. There are many people working on ways to accomplish this. A couple of examples are NanoPower from Instep and PowerWalk from BionicPower. I did a project to evaluate the various methods and technologies. Generally any technologies that recover significant power are also cumbersome and take very noticeable extra work to walk with. They actually take work just to carry around. The human walk is actually very efficient and doesn't "waste" a lot of energy, so energy collected requires extra effort to be expended. Even the technologies that try to absorb the foot planting motion which seems to capture the "braking" part of the human gait actually require extra effort. An analogy is how hard it is to walk in soft sand which also cushions and absorbs the foot plant energy. Given the state of the art right now, you can collect more energy with less work by wearing solar cells. Check out the flexible solar cells from Silicon Solar or PowerFilm from FlexSolarCells or products by Brunton.

    That being said, the Internet of Things will include many devices worn by humans that will require such low power that power scavenging will be feasible because at very low levels, the extra work is not unbearable. The earliest example I can think of is the self-winding wrist watch, for those who remember the old days, but similar technology can convert vibration energy to electric power. I had one of those watches and it became an unconscious act to surreptitiously shake my wrist at every opportunity to ensure it was always fully wound. I can imagine a future where everyone twitches their way through the day...

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    0 DAB over 11 years ago in reply to dougw

    Hi Douglas,

     

    From the designs I have seen, the one proposed by Frank Herbert in the "Dune" series seems to be the most efficient.

    He proposed having tight fitting suits with straps that could capture the walking movements from many places on the body.

    We have the technology to make these types of body powered systems and the battery technology is reaching a point where we indeed could capture the energy.

     

    Now all you have to do is convince everyone to wear a suit to capture the energy.

     

    Who knows, maybe we could start an eco-dress style for the masses.

     

    DAB

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    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to DAB

    Hi DAB,

    You are absolutely right - tight fit is supremely important in joint energy recovery systems.

    There are myriad problems to overcome of course. All human joints have more than one degree of freedom and in all cases the pivot point actually moves as the joint is flexed, so it is very difficult to connect a mechanical generator rigidly to both sides of the joint. If you allow free joint motion the generator has no output. There are some very clever designs already in development and some even on the market, but even after careful customized fitting they end up pretty cumbersome, constraining motion, hampering movements, bulky and heavy in awkward places. Not to mention the price. Maybe carbon nano tubes will eventually help solve the weight issue, but it is pretty much a given that power generation will take work. There really is not much free lunch in human joints. If you can imagine carrying a little hand-cranked generator with you and cranking it once per step, it gives an approximate feel for what it will take. If it is in your shoe, it feels a bit like you are walking uphill in spongy sand.

    Don't take all this as a negative prognosis - these are just challenges. Poor performance to date means there is a golden opportunity to do better. If and when you solve these issues you will have a large market. As you get closer to a complete solution the market will get larger.

    Doug

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    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to DAB

    Hi DAB,

    You are absolutely right - tight fit is supremely important in joint energy recovery systems.

    There are myriad problems to overcome of course. All human joints have more than one degree of freedom and in all cases the pivot point actually moves as the joint is flexed, so it is very difficult to connect a mechanical generator rigidly to both sides of the joint. If you allow free joint motion the generator has no output. There are some very clever designs already in development and some even on the market, but even after careful customized fitting they end up pretty cumbersome, constraining motion, hampering movements, bulky and heavy in awkward places. Not to mention the price. Maybe carbon nano tubes will eventually help solve the weight issue, but it is pretty much a given that power generation will take work. There really is not much free lunch in human joints. If you can imagine carrying a little hand-cranked generator with you and cranking it once per step, it gives an approximate feel for what it will take. If it is in your shoe, it feels a bit like you are walking uphill in spongy sand.

    Don't take all this as a negative prognosis - these are just challenges. Poor performance to date means there is a golden opportunity to do better. If and when you solve these issues you will have a large market. As you get closer to a complete solution the market will get larger.

    Doug

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