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Power banks for Home IT equipment - anyone used them?

shabaz
shabaz over 2 years ago

Several friends have been discussing the need to be prepared when/if there are power outages in the UK in Winter or Spring.

Our assumption is that the outage would not be longer than a day. Some of the battery backup systems cost thousands, which could be justified (say) over a 5-year life period, but it's unrealistic in the UK to want to be prepared with a backup source for 5 years for the home, given that any power outages won't be very frequent. Granted that backup systems could be used to obtain cheap(er) electricity at off-peak times, but it is hard to predict if the savings will be that significant enough to justify the big up-front expense commitment.

A generator is unattractive because of the noise, but we are open to it, but would definitely prefer a battery solution. Cooking food with an electricity source isn't too important; if there isn't natural gas connection in the kitchen, then camping gear could be used.

Then we noticed there are power banks. Some are in the $200 price range, many are $300-$500, and there are others circa $1000 and beyond.

There are lots of obscure power bank products such as the one below. It's a lot of energy to keep in a home, so whatever is used needs to be safe.

image (Image source: Amazon)

Backup lighting sources are cheap; there are even power tool ecosystems that use the same battery for task lights, so they could be used in a pinch. Not elegant, but it gets the job done at low cost.

However, we were not sure how to deal with IT equipment. Routers/DSL modems are straightforward because they operate from 12V or 5V and a backup supply is easily rigged up for that.

For laptops, it could be attractive to have a backup supply that offers USB Type C output, since many laptops (or lower power chromebooks) have a USB-C socket for power nowadays.

Any battery banks, or other backup scheme, that people can recommend? It would be nice to be able to charge (and run) laptops and power and charge anything that uses a USB connector. Perhaps a minimum of 100W power support would be needed, although really several hundred W would be preferred, so that a couple of laptops could be run, iPad, phones charged and so on. An additional 12V output would be a nice-to-have, to charge up or operate other devices. AC mains output is not essential. Hot-standby is not essential either, since a laptop will continue to run on its own battery while power connections are swapped. 

Any comments/ideas appreciated!

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  • rsjawale24
    rsjawale24 over 2 years ago +4
    I have fibre optic broadband at home. When it was first installed around 6 years back, I was surprised to see that the ONT had it's own 12V 6Ah battery supply for power outages. The power supply is quite…
  • three-phase
    three-phase over 2 years ago +4
    I use a 500wh portable station from Power Oak. I have had it a few years now and have not had any issues with it. I use it a lot on sites for powering test apparatus when there is no power close by. I…
  • vishwasn
    vishwasn over 2 years ago in reply to shabaz +4
    As a DIY solution to the WiFi router backup issue, I made this scalable battery bank using the 18650 cells and a BMS. Since required voltage is 12V. It is easy to have 3S balancer directly connected to…
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  • Gough Lui
    0 Gough Lui over 2 years ago

    There are some powerbanks which can provide 100W USB-C, although they really aren't going to make a big dent for those who use their computer a lot.

    The power stations that you picture - those are a nice idea, but the way they are built does leave me a little hesitant to adopt them just yet. Some of them have some insane number of parallel cells ... I just feel that there's a bit of a risk statistically speaking, especially with the more "flammable" Li-Co-based cells. The cycle life is also a potential issue and the smaller units are not particularly cost effective.

    You would probably be better-off being served by a wall-mounted AC battery like the Tesla Powerwall ... they've got the capacity and power rating to actually make useful energy, and can afford to be efficient and safe too. They can run without grid and some houses I know use them as a UPS.

    - Gough

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    0 shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Hi Gough,

    I feel the same, definitely hesitant about trusting most of these. There are some well-known brands that have a reputation they probably wish to preserve, such as Anker. Those units are higher-cost but the safety is key so they could be contenders. As you suggest, the price versus energy stored is very poor compared to the larger units like the Tesla unit. I'm still trying to find a price-versus-energy combination I would be happy with. The Tesla product costs about as much as a small car in the UK, which ends up excessive if the aim is to ensure some typical home IT equipment can run under an unexpected outage, but for sure would be worthwhile to solve bigger problems such as local energy generation and storage, or if operating electrical appliances like fridges and TVs during outages too. 

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    0 shabaz over 2 years ago in reply to Gough Lui

    Hi Gough,

    I feel the same, definitely hesitant about trusting most of these. There are some well-known brands that have a reputation they probably wish to preserve, such as Anker. Those units are higher-cost but the safety is key so they could be contenders. As you suggest, the price versus energy stored is very poor compared to the larger units like the Tesla unit. I'm still trying to find a price-versus-energy combination I would be happy with. The Tesla product costs about as much as a small car in the UK, which ends up excessive if the aim is to ensure some typical home IT equipment can run under an unexpected outage, but for sure would be worthwhile to solve bigger problems such as local energy generation and storage, or if operating electrical appliances like fridges and TVs during outages too. 

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