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Using Hall Effect Sensors Paired With SMD Inductors For Data Transmission...Feasible?

andysrobotics
andysrobotics over 9 years ago

Hi All,

 

I have an application where I need very short range data transmission (up to 2cm).

Any higher and this adds too much complexity and cost to the project due to many identical objects in very close vicinity of each other.

 

Originally this was going to be designed using IR for a two way link but the project must be waterproof.

 

I was thinking of both the master device and slave devices having a electromagnet for the transmitter and a hall effect sensor for the receiver.

The RX and TX are far enough apart (10cm) to not interfere with each other.

 

Each side will have a pair of transmitters and receivers - this is to allow for multiple orientation - using neodymium magnets to help with alignment.

having a pair of channels also allows for a unconventional SPI comms.

Master TX1 -> Slave RX1 = Master controlled CS (Master will have multiple slaves)

Master TX2 -> Slave RX2 = MOSI data

Master RX1 <- Slave TX1 = Slave Generated Data Clock (unconventional but allows for multiple orientation)

Master RX2 <- Slave TX2 = MISO data

 

The data rate can be low - as low as 1200bps (or less) as there will only be about 30 bytes per transmission and only 1 transmission per second.

 

My questions are...will this work?

What range does a hall effect sensor have?

Are small SMD inductors capable of producing enough magnetism for the sensors to pick up - through waterproof material?

Will an inductor hold magnetic charge and prevent data style pulses from being read?

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  • dougw
    dougw over 9 years ago +2 suggested
    Yes what you want to do is feasible. Several inductive wireless charging systems (like Qi, PMA and A4WP) already embed data transfer in the power signal. PMA in particular seems to to be opening up communications…
  • dougw
    dougw over 9 years ago in reply to andysrobotics +1
    Here is a project by David McIntosh using MSP430: https://sites.google.com/site/ddmcintosh2projects/inductive-charger
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    0 D_Hersey over 9 years ago

    A regular-old inductor is typically designed to contain its magnetic field.  You would probably have to use a solenoid.

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    0 andysrobotics over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Really image

     

    Was hopping for something smaller like a power filter inductor, similar size to the one on the raspberry pi.

     

    Size is a constraint on this project as is power - each slave side will be powered by a lipo and charged via wireless charging when docked and passing data.

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    0 andysrobotics over 9 years ago in reply to D_Hersey

    Really image

     

    Was hopping for something smaller like a power filter inductor, similar size to the one on the raspberry pi.

     

    Size is a constraint on this project as is power - each slave side will be powered by a lipo and charged via wireless charging when docked and passing data.

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