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Replace wall light switch with Touch Sensor

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Former Member over 11 years ago

I am new at electronics -- so forgive possible stupid questions.

I am trying to replace a wall light switch with a touch sensor switch.

I intend to use a capacitive touch sensor with a relay switch.

The touch sensor will be DC voltage; the relay switch will be the AC voltage.

How can I use the AC voltage in the wall switch to power the DC voltage for the touch sensor?

In the alternative, is there an AC voltage touch sensor I should use instead?

Finally, is there a completely different alternative method I should use?

Thank you for your input!

Richard

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  • waelect
    0 waelect over 11 years ago

    If you are new to electronics Main supply projects are simply very dangerous. Try do something that is a bit safer to deal with. If you are going to ignore this best to use solid state relays as a method for switching.

     

    http://au.element14.com/jsp/search/browse.jsp?N=2101+203128+110522010+110522278+110524065&Ns=P_PRICE_FARNELL_AU%7C0&Ntk=gensearch&Ntt=solid+state+switch&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&locale=en_AU&appliedparametrics=true&getResults=true&suppressRedirect=true&isRedirect=&originalQueryURL=/jsp/search/browse.jsp%3FN%3D2101%2B203128%26Ntk%3Dgensearch%26Ntt%3Dsolid%2Bstate%2Bswitch%26Ntx%3Dmode%2Bmatchallpartial%26No%3D0%26getResults%3Dtrue%26appliedparametrics%3Dtrue%26locale%3Den_AU%26divisionLocale%3Den_AU%26catalogId%3D%26skipManufacturer%3Dfalse%26skipParametricAttributeId%3D%26prevNValues%3D2101%2B203128

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  • hsanchez
    0 hsanchez over 11 years ago

    Take a look at the iphone AC wall charger (USB), you can use the +5V from the USB output.

     

    Hernán

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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 11 years ago

    Hi Richard,

    Here are a couple of standard circuits to make a touch sensitive ligh switch...

     

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    Doug

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to waelect

    Malcolm,

    Thanks for your input.

    I appreciate your warning about AC electricity -- very important.  I have been an electrician for years.  I'm just getting started in Electronics -- which I consider to be microprocessing, etc. (very different from wiring a house).  I was intending to use solid state relays (thanks, again, for the headsup on that).

    My question is more -- presuming I am going to have to use DC voltage for the microprocessing -- of how do I turn the AC voltage to power the DC microprocessing components (instead of having a DC battery inside the junction box)?

    Richard

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to hsanchez

    Hernán,

    Using a USB wall charger is a great idea!

    The circuitry is, already, done!

    I'll have to look into that (go tear apart an old USB wall charger).

    Thanks.

    Richard

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    0 Former Member over 11 years ago in reply to dougw

    Doug,

    Thanks for the circuits!

    I appreciate the circuits; I have been trying to figure out how to get started.

    I have not, yet, analized your circuits; though, it appears that they are using 220V.  Here in America, we use the 120V; I presume I would just need to make some applicable adjustments -- is that correct?

    This is great!

    Thanks.

    Richard

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  • Former Member
    0 Former Member over 11 years ago

    I did, just recently, find this already-made AC powered touch switch (at futurlec.com); however, it appears it is no longer produced:

     

    Touch Switch

    Light Touch Switch

    Want to replace all your light switches with a simple and cheap switch, that uses no mechanical parts and is completely safe. Well our new Light Touch Switch, is an ideal replacement. This simple and compact unit, may one day replace the convential light switch as a simple and cheap alternative. It is based on Capacitive Sensing and requires no contact with the sensor, instead the sensor is located behind the blank light switch plate. Hence, it is completely safe as no parts or electrical equipment is exposed. It is perfect for children and the elderly, who can operate it simply. The kit can also be used for many other applications, that require mains switching by proximity.

     

    http://www.futurlec.com/TouchSwitch.shtml

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  • dougw
    0 dougw over 11 years ago in reply to Former Member

    Hi Richard,

    The circuits should work as is with either 220 or 115 vac. The 15V zener limits the voltage to the chip in either case.

    You can find a datasheet here:

    http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/57961.pdf

    Doug

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago

    There are already made wall touch switch in China since 2012, also wireless remote control

    There are three different designs

    #1. use a battery inside the switch to supply power to control circuit. cheaper, but you need to change battery often

    #2. Introduce a natural line to the switch too, use the 110/220 VAC transformed to 5VDC, then power the control circuit. not user friendly, but reliable.

    #3. induced current from hot line to power the control circuit.  most user friendly. but there is really technical skill behind this.

         Most such designs have a big problem of blinking of light. To kill the blinking, they also supply an "adapter"

         the "adapter" is nothing but an extra load of 5 watt. YOU ARE WASTING EXTRA ENERGY ON THIS ADAPTER.

        In earlier 2015 I just found a such design without wasting extra energy.

    You can search eBay by wall touch switch wireless remote control

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