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How to measure SO2, as by-product from the Claus process in refineries, cost-effective and most accurately (crowd sourced)

Former Member
Former Member over 10 years ago

In my search for air quality sensors there doesn't seem much out there that could be as accurate as governments apparently are monitoring.

See this example from Kanagawa prefecture of Japan with apparent ppb accuracy per hour response time:

http://www.pref.kanagawa.jp/sys/taikikanshi/StationDailyReport/OfficeTimeReport0120501.htm

These government monitoring sites can be limited and do not always represent the reality due to local landscape and wind differences.

 

Crowd sourcing environmental quality data turned out to be an accepted watchdog of governments already.

See the efforts of Safecast global radiation monitoring for example. Even IAEA is kind of supportive:

http://www.fccj.or.jp/number-1-shimbun/item/330-the-crowdsourcing-genie-escapes-the-bottle/330-the-crowdsourcing-genie-e…

 

For air quality, specifically SO2 ppb levels can be an important indicator near refineries for potential other pollutive side products like NO, NO2 or NMHC.

You can smell SO2 at relatively low levels and it also has health effect at relatively low levels for people suffering from asthma.

Only this commercial sensor seems to be getting close although the response time is still a bit too slow to get in par with the mentioned Kanagawa example:

http://www.alphasense.com/WEB1213/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/SO2A4.pdf

 

Anyone at element14 who can shed a light on more accurate alternative solutions?

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  • Former Member
    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    Hi shabaz , When I would like to compare with existing Air Quality Monitoring stations something like 10ppb (not ppm) accuracy within 1 hour would be best. SO2 gets detected by my nose quite well when…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 10 years ago in reply to Former Member +1 suggested
    Hi Fred, I think you're looking at Figure 4 in the datasheet, but this isn't intended to show the response time, it is intended to show noise at different levels (and they tested at levels of 200, 160…
  • Former Member
    Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to shabaz +1
    shabaz Thank you very much for your advise and nailing me on bad reading of the spec sheet That is why it is so useful to pose questions here and get answers from experienced people like you. cheers, …
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  • GJZ
    0 GJZ over 10 years ago

    My interest is how this is calibrated and how good the 10bbp is. I had a promotion study for Bsc a long time ago at the measurement labs for the Agriculture University in Wageningen. To be able to test such device you have two options since there is probably no good test laboratory that can help you for a reasonable price. And the companies that have this but pollute are not going to help you. Either get access to a local test station and their data to bench mark your design and their "calibrated" device. Which does not tell you anything how realistic their measurements are. Or get access to something that we have worked on in Wageningen where so called "geurpannels" would try to detect a smell with very small increases of substances in air. When you combine that data with threshold levels then you have something. My nephew happen to be studying in Wageningen but I cannot discuss that here online.

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    0 GJZ over 10 years ago

    My interest is how this is calibrated and how good the 10bbp is. I had a promotion study for Bsc a long time ago at the measurement labs for the Agriculture University in Wageningen. To be able to test such device you have two options since there is probably no good test laboratory that can help you for a reasonable price. And the companies that have this but pollute are not going to help you. Either get access to a local test station and their data to bench mark your design and their "calibrated" device. Which does not tell you anything how realistic their measurements are. Or get access to something that we have worked on in Wageningen where so called "geurpannels" would try to detect a smell with very small increases of substances in air. When you combine that data with threshold levels then you have something. My nephew happen to be studying in Wageningen but I cannot discuss that here online.

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    0 michaelkellett over 10 years ago in reply to GJZ

    Why not calibrate from first principles - you'll need a source of clean gas - nitrogen springs to mind - you may be able to buy it with low enough SO2 contamination or else you'll need to clean it  - it won't be hard to get/make some SO2 to add back to the pure nitrogen.

    It'll take some time and you'll need someone with good practical lab skills and knowledge.

    Of course this is why a test lab will charge you !

     

    Or you may be able to buy a cylinder of pre-blended test gas at the right concentration.

     

     

    MK

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    0 Former Member over 10 years ago in reply to GJZ

      GJZ,

    Interesting a Sniffing panel to measure and support callibration that is how I measure now and check the monitoring stations which are quite distant from the expected source. When I am back in the Netherlands I would join image 

    Certified callibration will be necessary when comparing with those government data.

    Of course would be interested with a Lab that wants to cooperate with a potentially crowd-sourced monitoring network.

    Anyway a good start will be to follow the established Scientific rules and Alphasense's design notes on their SO2-B4 sensor:

    http://www.alphasense.com/WEB1213/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/SO2B4.pdf

    http://circuitsci.com/wiki/lib/exe/fetch.php/products:echem328:alphasense_auxpin_appnote_aan_803_250914.pdf

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