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Could you help me find issue in sensor circuit?

embeddedguy
embeddedguy over 2 years ago

I have designed a sensor with magnetometer and pressure sensor(ICP20100). After ordering the PCB and having done initial test, I could not find the ICP20100 on I2C bus(Address=0x63) while the other sensor is showing on the I2C bus.

Could you help me find the issue in my circuit diagram(Screenshot below)? as this could be the likely source of issue with the PCB. 

Note: As per the datasheet the CSB pin need to be high for I2C to active, hence I have removed the 10k resistor and short the pins.

The issue could be the capacitors C8/9 which needs to be low ESR as per datasheet. I ignored it because it was hard to find a caps which have this parameter listed in datasheet. So I used capacitors with same value and tolarances.

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe +3
    You’re right (of course). If the MPU6050 thinks it is the master for the downstream sensors, then it won’t be possible to enumerate these on the I2C bus from the system processor. What I don’t understand…
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 2 years ago +2
    Pin 6, ADO, defines the I2C address: low is 0x63; high is 0x64. This pin is connected to something off image and the component SJ4. Perhaps that is tied to ground somewhere which would seem ok, but if…
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 2 years ago in reply to Andrew J +2
    As a final thought, there are Arduino scripts thst enumerate the I2C bus to tell you what is on it. You could use, or adapt, that to check it isn’t hiding. In fairness though, I think the issue is how…
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    scottiebabe over 2 years ago

    The first thing that stood out in the datasheet

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    https://product.tdk.com/system/files/dam/doc/product/sensor/pressure/capacitive-pressure/data_sheet/ds-000416-icp-20100.pdf 

    That seems odd, I'm not sure...

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  • embeddedguy
    embeddedguy over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    That is an excellent suggestion. Actually I tried this after you suggested. But still the device is not showing up in i2cscan.

    The thing is that I have three sensors in one pcb. MPU6050 + HMC5883L + ICM20100. Other two are showing up but not this one.

    I do not think that there is a problem with schematic after Andrew J said that caps do not impact the i2c interface.

    Next I will try some other means and check if SPI interface works!!? Or doing the same thing again?

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to embeddedguy

    I'm sorry to hear your sensor board doesn't  work at first power up, it happens. 
    If you have a known working breakout board for the sensor I would connect that to rule any control or supporting electronics on your board. It could just not be soldered correctly or damaged by soldering, cleaning etc...  

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    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to embeddedguy

    I'm sorry to hear your sensor board doesn't  work at first power up, it happens. 
    If you have a known working breakout board for the sensor I would connect that to rule any control or supporting electronics on your board. It could just not be soldered correctly or damaged by soldering, cleaning etc...  

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  • embeddedguy
    embeddedguy over 2 years ago in reply to scottiebabe

    scottiebabe said:
    It could just not be soldered correctly or damaged by soldering, cleaning etc...  

    That possibility is something I cant ignore at this point.!

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  • scottiebabe
    scottiebabe over 2 years ago in reply to embeddedguy

    Yes, its frustrating when things don't work at first power up..

    Of course double check the part is rotated 180 deg

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    When I have soldered pressure sensors in the past I put a piece of kapton tape, then a piece of copper tape to seal the vent hole and try to protect the sensor asic

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