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What parameters do we need to predict & detect imminent danger caused by a charging battery?

HKPhysicist
HKPhysicist 9 months ago

Dear Engineers,

Every month or year, charging batteries cost human lives and total household destruction.

I have successfully developed a Flame Detector which sends alert to internet broker over a wifi router once it detects "flame" near a charging battery.

Then, I want to improve it and add some more parameters to predict & detect imminent danger caused by a charging battery.

What suggestions could you make to improve my flame detector design?  Thanks for your comments.  Upside down

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  • dougw
    dougw 9 months ago +4
    I think your temperature senor is a good early warning method. Other types of sensor to consider would be: leakage of electrolyte swelling of the battery outgassing physical damage such as…
  • battlecoder
    battlecoder 9 months ago +2
    If you have data of batteries that have failed, and the conditions under which they did, you could create a small predictive model. Three failure modes that are common are batteries being exposure to high…
  • anniel747
    anniel747 9 months ago in reply to HKPhysicist +1
    Chemistry of the batteries to monitor?
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    0 battlecoder 9 months ago

    If you have data of batteries that have failed, and the conditions under which they did, you could create a small predictive model. Three failure modes that are common are batteries being exposure to high temperatures, physical damage / punctures, and excess current consumption (for example through a short circuit).
    There's actually an Open Data Set with such experiments, available for free:

    Described here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378775324000570#da0010
    Available to download here: https://www.nrel.gov/transportation/battery-failure.html

    Now, the dataset gets really technical with their measurements, some of which you can't really replicate without very specialized equipment, but it should have some temperature readings associated to even their short circuit tests, and you could use that. If you can measure the discharge rate and temperature you are probably half way there.

    Also based on that dataset; if you can measure the "mass" of the battery you could detect if it's losing mass in any way (i.e: it's leaking or venting), but I assume you would require an extremely accurate sensor for that.

    Another idea: If you are working with Li-Po batteries, an additional sensor you could have is one of those flexing/strain sensors placed length-wise to detect swelling.

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    0 HKPhysicist 9 months ago in reply to battlecoder

    Cool!

    Very high-end experimental apparatus!  Thanks for sharing!  Handshake tone2

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    0 HKPhysicist 9 months ago in reply to battlecoder

    Cool!

    Very high-end experimental apparatus!  Thanks for sharing!  Handshake tone2

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