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Any suitable humidity sensors for +125 degree C environment

BigG
BigG over 7 years ago

I am looking for a suitable low-cost humidity sensor for a "wearable" battery operated (low voltage / low power consumption) application within a high temperature (+125 degree C could reach +150 degrees) environment. The aim is monitor drying conditions within an industrial hot air dryer type operation which is drying wet objects. High temperatures would last from about 20mins up to 90mins. Electronics + alkaline or coin cell battery thermally insulated in suitable casing (just in case).

 

Any suggestions.

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 7 years ago +3
    I found a couple of references: https://www.vsl.nl/en/about-vsl/news/relative-humidity-above-100-%C2%B0c http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07373938308916773?journalCode=ldrt20 It doesn't look…
  • shabaz
    shabaz over 7 years ago +2
    Hi BigG : ) Interesting use-case : ) I wonder if (say) you have a small chamber with holes, and some cloth inside it, and a deliberate heater (say a PCB with pattern etched), which turned on (say) every…
  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 7 years ago +2
    These Honeywell ones state operating to 125C. Storage temp range is same. https://sensing.honeywell.com/hih9000-datasheet-009076-7-en.pdf You lose the in-built temperature compensation above 50C. Read…
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  • rappi3
    rappi3 over 5 years ago

    Hi,

     

    I have been looking for humidity sensors that can withstand 150C (doesn't have to be operating) for my project.

    Normally the temperature is kept under 50C, once every while (once three months), the temp may go up to 150C.

     

    I am considering using those "capacitive" sensors that can go up to 150C or 190C,

    https://www.ist-ag.com/sites/default/files/DHP14-FemtoCap_E.pdf

    https://shop.bb-sensors.com/out/media/Datasheet_Capacitive%20humdidty%20sensor_KFS140_TO_new.pdf

    https://shop.bb-sensors.com/out/media/Datasheet_Capacitive_humidity_sensor_KFS140-D.pdf

     

    I am looking for a sensor reader and a probe shell to protect the sensor. I know most PCBs or plastics cannot stand 120C, so I am going to have a reader board away from the hot area, use wire to connect to these sensors (like probe). Also, I am looking to use a metal probe shell.

     

    Yet, I am unsure how to measure values off these sensors. I heard capacitance is not as simple as resistance reading...

     

    Has anyone successfully done such thing or have an advice on how?

     

    Any sensor board or probe shell recommendations?

     

    Thanks a lot!

     

    Talan

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 5 years ago in reply to rappi3

    Is cost an issue ?

    Electronics can be made to operate at 200C if the price is right - Google "downhole electronics).

    I would suggest some detailed discussions with the supplier before committing to any of the sensors you suggest, to be sure that they can cope with the conditions.

     

    The wet bulb technique would work fine, if you can cope with all the other issues.

    My temperature cycler can do humidity and also reach 150C (not at the same time), the humidity sensor in it is two temperature sensors about 2cm apart, one of which has a little filter paper sock which is kept wet when measuring humidity.

    There is a little water bath with a pump and depth sensor to keep the "sock" wet when needed.

     

    MK

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  • rappi3
    rappi3 over 5 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Thank you for the response Michael.

     

    Cost is an issue, which I am trying to keep the total module to cost below 300 USD.

    I am trying to build an incubator, so I am hoping the sensor can be space efficient too.

     

    As others suggested, I am looking at https://shop.bb-sensors.com/out/media/Datasheet_Capacitive_humidity_sensor_KFS140-D.pdf

    Where the sensor itself is pretty affordable, yet I am trying to figure out a good way to read value from this sensor.

    So, I was hoping to attach a metal shell over the sensor, expose them to the chamber, and have the sensor connected to a reader board through wires.

     

    Talan

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    michaelkellett over 5 years ago in reply to rappi3

    You can put this kind of sensor at the end of a cable if you design the circuit with some care.

    You need a circuit that can compensate for the cable capacitance which will be considerable (you will need a screened cable) and will vary with temperature.

    Are you planning to build a lot of these ?

     

    MK

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    michaelkellett over 5 years ago in reply to rappi3

    You can put this kind of sensor at the end of a cable if you design the circuit with some care.

    You need a circuit that can compensate for the cable capacitance which will be considerable (you will need a screened cable) and will vary with temperature.

    Are you planning to build a lot of these ?

     

    MK

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