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What does "SP-E", "16/5" and "20/6" mean in the flyback transformer product titles

BigG
BigG over 1 year ago

This has me perplexed.

Each product datasheet would have a title as follows: Model 063929 SP-E 16/5 Flyback Transformer, or Model 094929 SP-E 20/6 Flyback Transformer

So what is "SP-E" as it is also included in the EMC Filter Choke datasheets but not in the BA60951CS datasheet. In fact here the Filer Choke product 071923 also has "13/4" in the title.

Furthermore, the BA60951CS does not include any of these numbers either.

Any ideas?

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 1 year ago in reply to BigG +4
    The voltage range isn't for the transformer, it's for the SMPS that it is intended to be designed into. Manufacturers of such supplies seem to have come to a consensus that a universal input power supply…
  • javagoza
    javagoza over 1 year ago in reply to javagoza +3
    From digikey site: SmartPower Safety 3 W to 22 W Flyback Transformers Bourns' transformers feature an E16/5 or E20/6 power-ferrite core shape with a high clearance and creepage distance Safety 3…
  • javagoza
    javagoza over 1 year ago +2
    SP refers to Bourns Smart Power Transformers Series https://www.bourns.com/docs/rohs-cofc/sp_transformer_coc.pdf?sfvrsn=1b4e58f6_3
  • shabaz
    0 shabaz over 1 year ago

    I can help with a bit of it. There are traditional E shaped ferrite core sizes, known as (say) EF 16 and EF 20. The ferrite itself (not the entire transformer) has approximate dimensions of 16 mm width, and 5 mm thick for the EF 16. For the EF 20 cores, those two dimensions are approx 20mm and 6mm. So I think they are referring to that the transformers are using ferrites of those dimensions.

    I've no idea what SP-E means though. 

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    0 javagoza over 1 year ago

    SP refers to Bourns Smart Power Transformers Series

    https://www.bourns.com/docs/rohs-cofc/sp_transformer_coc.pdf?sfvrsn=1b4e58f6_3

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    0 javagoza over 1 year ago in reply to javagoza

    From digikey site:

    SmartPower Safety 3 W to 22 W Flyback Transformers


    Bourns' transformers feature an E16/5 or E20/6 power-ferrite core shape with a high clearance and creepage distance

    Safety 3 W to 22 W Flyback Transformers Bourns' SmartPower safety 3 W to 22 W flyback transformers can transfer up to 22 W and are optimized for a working frequency of 132 kHz.

    The transformer offers two outputs with reinforced insulation for individual operation, parallel, or in-series connection, and includes one bias winding for controller feedback.

    The input voltage range varies from 85 VAC to 265 VAC with an operating temperature range of -25°C to +125°C. The SmartPower safety transformers are based on a standard E16/5 or E20/6 power-ferrite-core shape with a high clearance and high creepage distance coil construction designed for various silicon controller families.

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    0 javagoza over 1 year ago in reply to javagoza

    https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/b/bourns/wide-band-emc-filter-chokes

    https://www.digikey.com/en/product-highlight/b/bourns/smartpower-safety-flyback-transformers

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  • BigG
    0 BigG over 1 year ago in reply to shabaz

    Aha. Thanks Shabaz.

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    0 BigG over 1 year ago in reply to javagoza

    Excellent. Thanks javagoza 

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    0 BigG over 1 year ago in reply to javagoza

    Actually, that's another thing. I was curious as to where the 85 to 265 VAC came from as it is not stated anywhere in the datasheets.

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  • javagoza
    0 javagoza over 1 year ago in reply to BigG

    It is on the dasheet i.e.

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    0 BigG over 1 year ago in reply to javagoza

    Ah, so it is. Thanks. Still, I find it strange that it's not listed under the Electrical Specifications section.

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    0 jc2048 over 1 year ago in reply to BigG

    The voltage range isn't for the transformer, it's for the SMPS that it is intended to be designed into. Manufacturers of such supplies seem to have come to a consensus that a universal input power supply should work with something like that range going in (it may form part of some of the standards, but I'm not familiar enough with them to say offhand): it encompasses the range of domestic supplies all the way up from Japan with its low 100V to the countries with a domestic supply of 240V, which includes the UK where I am.

    On the transformer symbol, I think it's just indicating how each winding was intended to be used. It's not really part of the spec. Perhaps a little misleading, but a designer of SMPSs would understand what it's indicating.

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