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How are you going to connect the sensor?

neuromodulator
neuromodulator over 4 years ago

The only requirement for the "experimental design challenge" is to use the vibration sensor. How are you going to use it? I suppose most (if not everyone) will sample the analog signal, but what are you going to use to sample it? Are you going to use the provided STM32 MCU, a different MCU. a DAQ, or something else?

 

As of me I still haven't decided yet. I got a NI DAQ, a DMM with sampling capabilities and of course a bunch of MCUs and FPGAs. the NI DAQ is probably the easiest to use, its 200 ksps @ 16 bits. Then my DMM could sample up to 1msps @ 16 bits, but not continuously, or at much higher resolution but also a much slower speed. Then the provided STM32 can sample at up to 3.6 Msps @ 16 bits, (and eventually at higher speed through interleaving) but requires much more effort as it needs to be programmed.

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  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 4 years ago in reply to dougw +3
    Hi Doug, If you look on page 4 of the manual - the suggested connectors are SM03B-SRSS-TB or BM03B-SRSS-TB, these are surface mount PCB connectors. I think even if you found the cable connectors they would…
  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 4 years ago +2
    The sensor spec indicates the frequency range is 15KHz and the measuring range is about 1V, so your NI DAQ has more than enough capability. I wish the spec had a frequency response curve but I guess that…
  • dougw
    dougw over 4 years ago +2
    I will hook it up this weekend and see what I can do with it. The first issue for me will be connecting to the tiny connector - I don't think I have a mating connector yet. It looks to be a 1mm pitch.…
  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 4 years ago

    The sensor spec indicates the frequency range is 15KHz and the measuring range is about 1V, so your NI DAQ has more than enough capability.  I wish the spec had a frequency response curve but I guess that's something to be determined.  There's also no power supply sensitivity curve although the operating range is specified as 3-5.5V (I plan to use it at 3.3V).

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  • dougw
    dougw over 4 years ago

    I will hook it up this weekend and see what I can do with it. The first issue for me will be connecting to the tiny connector - I don't think I have a mating connector yet. It looks to be a 1mm pitch. I will probably blog as I go in case it helps anyone else.

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  • zst123
    zst123 over 4 years ago

    I will say go for it and use the NI DAQ if that is what you are most familiar with. Personally I am going to use the STM32 ADC sampling with DMA as it is something I have experience with. After this competition it will be nice to learn from each other's blogs on how a variety of tools can be used.

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  • neuromodulator
    neuromodulator over 4 years ago in reply to ralphjy

    Yes, but through oversampling you can reduce noise, so its not a bad idea to go for high sampling speed

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  • neuromodulator
    neuromodulator over 4 years ago in reply to dougw

    I also noticed its way too tiny, so I'll eventually cut it off and use something more convenient

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  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 4 years ago in reply to dougw

    Hi Doug,

     

    If you look on page 4 of the manual - the suggested connectors are SM03B-SRSS-TB or BM03B-SRSS-TB, these are surface mount PCB connectors.  I think even if you found the cable connectors they would be too hard to put together unless you had a crimp tool that could handle the small pins.  I wasn't able to find any pre-built cable assemblies so I'm going to try the PCB connectors to see if I can build an adapter.  Probably simplest to just cut it off.  It almost looks like they expect you to do it as there are instructions in the manual on page 5.

     

    Ralph

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  • neuromodulator
    neuromodulator over 4 years ago in reply to zst123

    That's good, I suspect the STM32 is one of the best alternatives, because of the number of bits and speed. I haven't done much work with the STM32, but maybe I'll give it a try to see if I can get it to do what I need without having to spend too much effort on it

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  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 4 years ago in reply to ralphjy

    I'm one of the judges so I have to be careful what I say but I think it's OK to point out that you can find a spec with frequency response here:

     

    https://www.kemet.com/en/us/sensors.html?t=931

     

    MK

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  • ralphjy
    ralphjy over 4 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    Thanks.  I'm afraid I'm guilty of a case of not RTFM sufficiently.  I had downloaded that document and used parts of it already.  Appreciate that you pointed out that it had the frequency curve included.  I also missed the part about the resonant frequency being >30kHz.  I think I need new glasses image.

     

    Ralph

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  • dwinhold
    dwinhold over 4 years ago in reply to dougw

    In the instruction paper that came with the sensor, it shows an alternative solution for connection.

     

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    Dale Winhold

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