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Blog Blog 1: Brief on Experimenting the performance of  Polymer Capacitors in Instrumentation Amplifier for Medical
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Blog 1: Brief on Experimenting the performance of  Polymer Capacitors in Instrumentation Amplifier for Medical

fyaocn
fyaocn
22 May 2019

Experimenting the performance of  Polymer Capacitors in Instrumentation Amplifier for Medical

 

1. Introducion

Medical application like ECG use instrumentation amplifier to condition small signals in the presence of large common-mode voltages and DC potentials.

With the electric current generated from the contraction of the heart wall, electrodes in skin surface can detect potential from 0.5- to 1.5-mV AC signal with a bandwidth of 0.05 to 100 Hz and sometimes up to 1 kHz.

The unwanted electrode DC offset potential of ±500 mV and a large common-mode voltage of up to 1.5 V shall be removed.

Low-pass filtering shall be implemented to remove unwanted common-mode voltage , which mainly comprises two parts: 50- to 60-Hz interference and DC electrode offset potential.

Therefor, low noise, fix gain instrument amplifier AD8424 shall be used in this experiment.Works include scheme design, simulate, PCB design and sold  compononts.

With low ESR, the performance of polymer capacitor shall be tested and verified.

 

2. Priciples and Diagram

2.1  Low noise, fix gain instrument amplifier AD8424 shall be used. According to the datasheet, there are two basic circuits need good quality capacitor.

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- The stable DC power supply need one 0.1µF capacity for high frequency filter and one 10µF capacitor for lower frequency in both Vs+ and Vs-.

- Differential Input  +IN and -IN need low pass filter to remove input distortion and noise. 1nF and 10nF capacitor shall be used for this purpose.

 

2.2 Polymer Capacitor

In this challenge Kit, Polymer Aluminum Capacitor, 10 µF, 6.3 V, SP-Cap, CD Series is available

I would try to procure rest capacitor from market, including

0.1µF x2

10nF x1

  1nf  x2

After some research on the market, the polymer capacitor lower than 1µF  is hard to find. So I have to replace them with some MLCC.

 

2.3 Further test with larger size.

Super-capacitor of 1F is sure to have different character. I would try to show it.

 

3. Test Procedure

3.1 Design and Simulation

I design the scheme with CADstar 16.0 or online easyEDA and simulte with ADIsimPE.

Then, sold the parts in demo board and test the customized ECG draft design.

3.2 Reports

Even with careful design and calculation, it is highly likely that the expected result is still hard to get.

More parameter tunning and design modification is needed.

I would blog the fault report if the real signal mixed with noise and special report on polymer capacitor.

 

4. Further work

I would use ADC chip to transfer the analogue signal after the AD8428 into digital values for data logging and analysis after this polymer capacitor experiment.

Another work to do shall be making one ESR meter with Arduino board to show how the ESR meter runs.

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    fyaocn over 6 years ago in reply to michaelkellett

    That is mainly what I have proposed in my original Application. I notice several problems afterward.

    I would find out more in the experiment. If wrong, I would admit it.

    The polymer capacitor has limitations and sometimes the ESR meter as well. eg. 1F supercapacitor can not get reading which is within the rating.

    Thanks for your suggestion, which is good clues for my experiment. Some math work is required if want to find out the answer.

    Only that I have just got the kits, only two weeks left. Let me try to find  out what happens.

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    michaelkellett over 6 years ago

    The feature of polymer caps is usually low ESR. The use of two caps on power supply decoupling (which is not universally recommended) is often

    based on the idea that small cap provides a low ESR but that the large capacitor (the 10uF in your case) should have a fairly high ESR (0.5ohms or more).

     

    How will you compare the performance of the polymer cap compared with a standard aluminum electrolytic, tantalum or ceramic in your circuit ?

     

    The small value caps would normally be MLCC or plastic film - MLCC caps should be used with caution in filter circuits, COG or NPO dielectrics are preferred.

    Other materials have significant voltage/capacity sensitivity and can introduce large amounts of signal distortion in some filter applications.

     

    MK

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