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  • Author Author: m.ratcliffe
  • Date Created: 21 Sep 2015 4:08 AM Date Created
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Automated Green House Blog:16 - Human Urine and Hydroponics

m.ratcliffe
m.ratcliffe
21 Sep 2015

There is a lot of people hungry in the world today this could be reduced by the application of technology. Lots of the main areas of food shortages have lots of sunlight and a surprising abundance of well water [even the sahara desert] the limiting factor is poor nutrient sources and soil. Hmm I have been growing with Aquaponics for years now, problem solved?

 

Maybe not, in Aquaponics the food to feed the fish is relatively expensive for a person surviving on two dollars a day. What else can we use as a nutrient source instead of fish food, human pee will be a good source [its free, easily available]. It is possible, maybe considered disgusting in the west, but if you are hungry your definition of disgusting changes pretty quickly.

 

The problem with using urine is that a person will never output more nutrients than he eats, so we are really only reducing the nutrient cycle waste and not having a real input to it. It’s a great start but we need to add to this solution. What is a plentiful and free nutrient source?  [Later blogs will cover this]

 

Here is a quick video showing a variate of plants growing from a fish less aquaponics unit instead dosed with pasteurised human urine, it was made as a basic proof of concept, no real scientific data here yet. The good data will be coming from the growing competition.

 

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I was unable to have a full spectrum carried out on the proof of concept human urine test and lacked a decent standard I could compare too, but here are some basic measurements compared to a natural healthy pond:

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There is little concrete data I can pull from these readings apart from:

>I really need to keep a closer eye on the PH of my system [looks like yet another broken probe, these things are making me poor]

>The carbon water Filter is working well and stopping chlorine from entering the system

 

For the competition grow there will be two identical systems for comparison and access to a full spectrum analysis of the water samples. One pure human urine and the other a commercial nutrient, from this comparison we should be able to make more confident proof's.

 

There will be a few blogs to carry on this topic, mainly:

>What is in Human urine and why it is a good idea to use it

>How and Why to pasteurise/sterilise the urine before use

>Automated self learning Doser [also suited to general hydroponics]

>The layout for the final grow test, what we will be measuring and why

 

 

 


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    m.ratcliffe over 9 years ago in reply to DAB

    Unfortunately I believe you are correct, we intake food and convert it to NPK in our waste. I believe the majority of N is in urine and most of the PK is in the brown waste [Really should stop calling something so useful waste].

     

    The other comment on the Video regarding Salt:

    "I suggest setting up a solar still to remove the fluid from the left over salt.

    You can condense the fluid for reuse and discard the salt, or use it to melt the snow off your walkway in the winter. "

     

    Would a still not also remove the beneficial salts [NPK] from the fluid also?  I am hopping using a certain percentage [lets say 10% daily ] of the hydroponics fluid to water a large field would stop a substantial salt build up in the system without causing a build up on the field.

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    DAB over 9 years ago

    As I recall, urine contains minute amounts of phosphorous, which the plants would like.

     

    I agree that you need to compost the urine a while to make sure you kill off any potential parasites carried in the fluid.

     

    It never ceases to amaze me how many resources are wasted everyday do to social taboo or just ignorance.

     

    I grew up near farms, they tried to use just about everything and the farms worked just fine without any fancy fertilizers or expensive machinery.

     

    DAB

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