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Raspberry Pi 3D printers

tim12
tim12 over 13 years ago

Hi to all,

I'm buying a ubis hot end to make a 3D printer and found out that I can have a 3D printer by using the raspberry pi instead of a 3D printer. Here is the pdf from thingiverse:

 

http://thingiverse-production.s3.amazonaws.com/zipfiles/ec/dd/1f/04/ed/Pi-Bot_3d_printing_for_Raspberry_Pi.zip

 

Unfortunately, I am a total noob in 3D printers and I don't know where to start.image I also have a oxford smart kit series motor boat. On the cover it says that you builld a powerful electric motor, is this useful enough for 3D printers? I know that it works a D cell battery so how shall I power it. Thanks a lotimage

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  • e14 Contributor
    e14 Contributor over 13 years ago +1 verified
    Tim, I found your post on this forum and it raised an interesting question for me: Could I use a Rasberry Pi to make the 3d printers we sell stand alone (printing without a computer attached)? Currently…
  • tim12
    0 tim12 over 13 years ago

    What about this:

     

    http://bukobot.com/raspberry-pi

     

    Thanksimage

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  • Nate1616
    0 Nate1616 over 13 years ago in reply to tim12

    Most websites like the ones you posted are using the pi to run the software that communicates to the board on the printer.  So you dont dirrectly run the printer from the pi.  The pi is running slic3r(slices 3d object up)  and Pronterface(takes the sliced file and tells printer where to move).  I personally wouldnt mess with the pi to run this software.  I did it to my pi but prefer to run the software on my mac.   As far as the bukabot that is a good printer.  I have seen these in action and they do a pretty good job printing.

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    0 tim12 over 13 years ago in reply to Nate1616

    Instead of having an arduino, will this kit be any good, thanksimage:

     

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3D-printer-RepRap-Sanguinololu-1-3a-electronic-controller-kit-unassembled-/321063630413?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&var=&hash=item4ac0e2364d

     

     

    The plans for my 3D printer is the double decker 3D printer except that it is one hot end. I've chosen this heatbed and I will put the glass ontop:

     

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Prusa-Mendel-RepRap-3d-printer-2-part-heat-plate-support-table-225mm-x-225mm-/321075419956?pt=UK_BOI_Industrial_Automation_Control_ET&hash=item4ac1961b34

     

    The stepper motor is here:

     

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEMA17-hi-torque-44N-cm-stepper-motor-1-8deg-Reprap-3D-printers-CNC-etc-/221160540459?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item337e32092b

    How many do I need (im following the plans of double decker 3D printer except I don't have themimage - i mean the idea of how it moves!)

     

    imageI also just want to add that I want my 3D printer to be sub or £125/$190.96.

     

    Thanks for your hard work!

     

    Tim

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  • colecago
    0 colecago over 13 years ago in reply to tim12

    Good luck, the parts you have listed (counting 3 of those steppers) is already $100 (not including shipping).  You still need a hot end, stepper and gears for extruder, pulleys, belts, slides, all the supports, power supply.... for under $90 (to stay within $190 budget).

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    0 Nate1616 over 13 years ago in reply to tim12

    Tim

    The Sanguinololu board is just fine to use.  It works geat but I have to agree with colecago that your budget of $191 is going to be impossible to stick to.  My first 3D printer cost around $400 to make.

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    0 tim12 over 13 years ago in reply to Nate1616

    Will I have to solder anything and will i need an arduino? thanksimage Tim

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    0 tim12 over 13 years ago in reply to Nate1616

    Are these stepper drivers ok to work with the sangunolo kit?

     

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-x-A4988-stepper-driver-pololu-compatible-3D-printer-reprap-prusa-mendel-/360598616187?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item53f55a387b

     

    Thanksimage

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    0 Nate1616 over 13 years ago in reply to tim12

    Tim

    If you get the Sanguinololu from your link above you will not need an arduino and yes that kit above will need to be soldered.  You can find them already assembled if your not confortable soldering.  The stepper drivers you have selected will also work with the sanguinololu.

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    0 Nate1616 over 13 years ago in reply to Nate1616

    Tim

    Feel free to send me any questions you have on 3d printers.  I would be more than happy to help you out.

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    0 e14 Contributor over 13 years ago

    Tim,

    I found your post on this forum and it raised an interesting question for me:  Could I use a Rasberry Pi to make the 3d printers we sell stand alone (printing without a computer attached)? 

     

    Currently, there are stand alone solutions for 3d printers that use the Arduino controller, or the Sanguinololu controller (which is what we use).  Both of these boards use an Atmel Atmega chip.

     

    I did some research into this idea.  The main problem I ran into was that the Rasberry Pi would have to have some kind of breakout board to run the stepper motors, and run the MOSFETs that heat up the print bed, and hot end.  It also needs to monitor temperatures of both as well.   Currently, these tasks are done by the controller boards I already mentioned.

     

    The second problem I discovered is that the Pi is not so good for real time control (timing issues).

     

    The problem with the controller boards I already mentioned is that they don't have good on-board memory (though there are add-on modules for SD cards), and they don't have built in networking, not  Wifi nor wired ethernet.  Of course the Pi excels at this.    The Pi can buffer the GCode being sent to the controller board.  No need for special add-on modules for the controller board, which are not ideal anyway, as they are somewhat expensive and they don't give you a display of any type (yet another add-on module is needed for a simple alphanumeric 2 or 3 line LCD display). 

     

    So, here is the best approach to using  a Pi on a 3d printer:  Use it in conjunction with one of the controller boards I mentioned above.  In essense, the Pi would replace the external computer that the controller board is plugged into via USB.  The Pi could run Pronterface (a 3d printer interface application written in Python), and it would send the GCode to the controller board as it buffers.  The Pi can be hooked up to a real keyboard and mouse and computer monitor and no rinky-dink LCD display is needed.  You will need to add a USB hub of course, because the Pi must send commands to the controller board via USB.  Although, an even cooler idea is to come up with a web interface, and tell the Pi what to do via a remote computer via the network.

     

    Unfortunately, this sort of blows your budget out of the water.  In reality, you budget would not even get you a barebones RepStrap (bootstrapped RepRap).  You have to buy a controller board with stepstick drivers, at least 4 NEMA 17 motors (and preferably another so you have 2 motors on Z-axis), heat bed, hot end, power supply, hardware, frame materials, printed parts to assemble the frame and moving carriages, and so on.  Just buying this stuff will cost you well over $200.

     

    And all of this is going the conventional route, and not using a Pi.

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