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Ben Heck gives an update on the much anticipated Portable N64 and requests help from the community with completing the build.  A portable N64 is one of the most frequently requested builds from members but is difficult to hack because it’s easy to damage and requires a lot of rewiring to make it portable.  Specifically, Ben needs help getting the RAM expansion to work. Help Ben finish his N64 Portable in the comments below!

 

 

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  • jon4248
    jon4248 over 8 years ago +10
    Am I the only one that found this via google? Reverse engineering the jumper pak. | The Official ModRetro Forums Edit - info about: ram swap | The Official ModRetro Forums edit: or perhaps this if your…
  • sudos
    sudos over 8 years ago +6
    Shielded ribbon cable would probably be the first thing to get your hands on to try. 3M stuff, of course, nothing else. this was a problem with the PCIe stuff when bitcoin and dogecoin miners were huge…
  • mayermakes
    mayermakes over 8 years ago +5
    I think the problem is actually in the timing for the ram, (15cm/ns in copper wire if I remember correctly) Because of the way the board is routed I think the traces are calculated to have the suitable…
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  • eb1560
    eb1560 over 8 years ago

    No one seems to have addressed the key electrical issue involved in designing or modding a base/concurrent RDRAM memory bus.  Controlled impedance is key, but often misunderstood with a Rambus system from the mid-90s: the impedance varies throughout the different segments of the memory bus, these different impedances must stay conserved.  Only after soldering the RDRAM ICs (capacitance) does the overall characteristic impedance drop down to 51 ohms.  Even the slightest extra solder on the RDRAM’s clock and data pins/pads is enough to cause some instability.

     

    More specifically, the traces before and halfway underneath the RDRAM chips have a higher impedance (Rambus: loaded traces).  The wider traces that extend the memory bus and connect to the jumper/expansion slot have a lower impedance (unloaded) and function as an electrical stub.  The memory bus topology is a bit more unique on the N64: just prior to the termination resistors, the final segment of the memory bus on the back side of the jumper/expansion pack has a higher impedance.

     

    Achieving 51 ohms by soldering through-hole components or different types of equal length wires will prove to be very difficult, but not impossible.  It would probably be easier to trim out portions of the top and bottom sides of the jumper-pak.

     

    The jumper/expansion pak routes two 250 MHz incoming and outgoing clock signals.  When viewing the video, it seemed only the outgoing clock from the RCP is routed, the incoming clock is sourced from a clock generator on the PIF chip side of the board.

     

    I would add that if there is too much capacitance (~33uF) on the immediate VTerm side of the termination resistors, the discharge when shutting off could damage or even destroy RCP.

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    eb1560 over 8 years ago

    No one seems to have addressed the key electrical issue involved in designing or modding a base/concurrent RDRAM memory bus.  Controlled impedance is key, but often misunderstood with a Rambus system from the mid-90s: the impedance varies throughout the different segments of the memory bus, these different impedances must stay conserved.  Only after soldering the RDRAM ICs (capacitance) does the overall characteristic impedance drop down to 51 ohms.  Even the slightest extra solder on the RDRAM’s clock and data pins/pads is enough to cause some instability.

     

    More specifically, the traces before and halfway underneath the RDRAM chips have a higher impedance (Rambus: loaded traces).  The wider traces that extend the memory bus and connect to the jumper/expansion slot have a lower impedance (unloaded) and function as an electrical stub.  The memory bus topology is a bit more unique on the N64: just prior to the termination resistors, the final segment of the memory bus on the back side of the jumper/expansion pack has a higher impedance.

     

    Achieving 51 ohms by soldering through-hole components or different types of equal length wires will prove to be very difficult, but not impossible.  It would probably be easier to trim out portions of the top and bottom sides of the jumper-pak.

     

    The jumper/expansion pak routes two 250 MHz incoming and outgoing clock signals.  When viewing the video, it seemed only the outgoing clock from the RCP is routed, the incoming clock is sourced from a clock generator on the PIF chip side of the board.

     

    I would add that if there is too much capacitance (~33uF) on the immediate VTerm side of the termination resistors, the discharge when shutting off could damage or even destroy RCP.

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    oneunamused over 8 years ago in reply to eb1560

    I refer you to my earlier comment. image

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