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Beaglebone Ai Heating Issues

ipv1
ipv1 over 5 years ago

While experimenting with the device, I found that the board would shutdown without warning. The reasons is...

 

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Now I tried a number of combos like us the USB tether, connect with display(yes I have the cursed microHDMI cable) and use standalone but every time, it just overheats if I do anything.

 

Idle temps are high too. Was wondering if I got a bad board or is it everyone?

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  • mudz
    mudz over 5 years ago +7
    After seeing all of you in so much trouble I decided - Why you should have all the fun so iI bought this kit too, to get into the same trouble pool.. After all, we all are community members. Cheers to…
  • tariq.ahmad
    tariq.ahmad over 5 years ago +6
    Hi ipv1 , I looked into this and this is a known issue: BeagleBone AI - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) They recommend adding a larger heat sink and cooling via fan.
  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 5 years ago in reply to 14rhb +6
    Hi shabaz - I've made a first prototype which seems to fit quite well. Packing out the top spacing by one extra washer was enough to get it to grip the existing heatsink fins. I'll make a bracket over…
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  • tariq.ahmad
    tariq.ahmad over 5 years ago

    Hi ipv1 ,

     

    I  looked into this and this is a known issue:

     

    BeagleBoneRegistered AI - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)

     

    They recommend adding a larger heat sink and cooling via fan.   

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  • gdstew
    gdstew over 5 years ago in reply to tariq.ahmad

    My investigations showed much the same. My questions are:

     

    1. How was this not caught during testing ? Some minor overheating might be missed but shutting down as described on many of the comments makes it obvious that there is a serious problem.

    2. This is happening when you are only running the OS on the ARM Cortex-A15 cores.  What happens to the temperature when you start using some mixture or all of the ARM Cortex-M4s cores,

          DSPs, EVEs and PRUs too?

    3. If it needs a bigger heat sink and fan just running the OS why doesn't it HAVE a bigger heat sink and fan (see 2.).

     

    After reading the earlier comments in this discussion and checking for other comments on the web I hopped over to Ebay and bought a couple of 25mm fans. The heat sink on the AI is 25mm and

    it looks like there are threaded holes to attach the fan with. I'm not sure how you mount a larger heat sink  other than a adhesive thermal pad or thermal epoxy. There is an adhesive thermal pad

    between the heat sink and SoC but I'm not a big fan of thermal pads and in this case I would much rather have a heat sink that uses mount points on the PCB and a wafer thin layer of quality thermal

    paste.

     

    It also looks like it could use some serious thermal management on the OS side. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that somebody is looking into this.

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  • cstanton
    cstanton over 5 years ago in reply to gdstew

    Mainly active cooling helps to reduce the temperatures when it's under load.

     

    There may be some work that can be done with cpufreq under linux to help thermal throttling, though this is at least possible to manage the board to reduce the speed down to 500mhz from the 1.5Ghz.

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  • jomoenginer
    jomoenginer over 5 years ago in reply to gdstew

    The heat issue was found during testing.  See section 3.1 from the following:

    https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-ai/wiki/System-Reference-Manual

     

    "You may find it helpful to connect a fan to BeagleBoneRegistered AI. This one has been used by Alpha testers."

     

     

    There is also a link for the Heatsink.

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  • jomoenginer
    jomoenginer over 5 years ago in reply to gdstew

    The heat issue was found during testing.  See section 3.1 from the following:

    https://github.com/beagleboard/beaglebone-ai/wiki/System-Reference-Manual

     

    "You may find it helpful to connect a fan to BeagleBoneRegistered AI. This one has been used by Alpha testers."

     

     

    There is also a link for the Heatsink.

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  • mayermakes
    mayermakes over 5 years ago in reply to jomoenginer

    f you can't wait to get a fan-addon for the Beaglebone AI : here is the link to order the pcb right away https://aisler.net/p/HUQFWYRM

    it takes the recommended Fan and allows to control it with pwm from a Pin on the Beaglebone (compatible with AI, Balck, Green, Blue and Indutrial Beaglebones)
    Here is the BOM:

    1x https://at.farnell.com/multicomp/mcmf0w8ff1002a20/metal-film-resistor-10kohm-125mw/dp/1127017?st=resistor%2010k

    1x https://at.farnell.com/infineon/irlz44npbf/mosfet-n-kanal-55v-41a-to-220/dp/8651418?st=IRLZ44N

    1xhttps://at.farnell.com/nidec-copal/f251r-05llc/axiall-fter-25mm-5v-dc-1-412cfm/dp/2856031?st=fan%205V%2025mm

    + some generic 2,54mm pitch headers you may already have at home.

     

    this was planned to be released alongside some content, but I see the need for people to use it so please try out this prototype at your own risk.

    the first 0 batch has not yet arrived in my workshop so I can't promise it works perfectly right now

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