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Beaglebone Ai Heating Issues

ipv1
ipv1 over 5 years ago

While experimenting with the device, I found that the board would shutdown without warning. The reasons is...

 

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Now I tried a number of combos like us the USB tether, connect with display(yes I have the cursed microHDMI cable) and use standalone but every time, it just overheats if I do anything.

 

Idle temps are high too. Was wondering if I got a bad board or is it everyone?

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  • mudz
    mudz over 5 years ago +7
    After seeing all of you in so much trouble I decided - Why you should have all the fun so iI bought this kit too, to get into the same trouble pool.. After all, we all are community members. Cheers to…
  • tariq.ahmad
    tariq.ahmad over 5 years ago +6
    Hi ipv1 , I looked into this and this is a known issue: BeagleBone AI - Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) They recommend adding a larger heat sink and cooling via fan.
  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 5 years ago in reply to 14rhb +6
    Hi shabaz - I've made a first prototype which seems to fit quite well. Packing out the top spacing by one extra washer was enough to get it to grip the existing heatsink fins. I'll make a bracket over…
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  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 5 years ago

    On the subject of cooling there is an ultimate solution, literally, where the entire board is immersed in a non-conductive cooling liquid such as this one from 3M: https://www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/novec-uk/applications/immersion-cooling/

     

    Pump the liquid around the sealed enclosure and through a large external heat exchanger.

     

    Now, where was that reset button? Oh yes, inside the sealed case image

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  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 5 years ago

    On the subject of cooling there is an ultimate solution, literally, where the entire board is immersed in a non-conductive cooling liquid such as this one from 3M: https://www.3m.co.uk/3M/en_GB/novec-uk/applications/immersion-cooling/

     

    Pump the liquid around the sealed enclosure and through a large external heat exchanger.

     

    Now, where was that reset button? Oh yes, inside the sealed case image

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago in reply to 14rhb

    Nice! Kind of like a nuclear reactor being cooled : )

     

    I went with some ceramic tiles. Looks a bit like the space shuttle heat shields : )

    I'll try powering it up tomorrow. I'm not sure it will be super-effective due to how it was interfaced. It consists of a 60x40x1mm copper sheet, with six 20x20x2.5mm heatsinks20x20x2.5mm heatsinks attached with thermal tape. Then it was attached to the existing heatsink on the BB-AI using more tape. The 60x40 sheet almost does not fit the BB-AI, the plastic standoffs need some dremel'ing with a grinding wheel. I had to do that because I couldn't make the heatsinks smaller, it seemed impossible to cut or sand them, they are really tough. Also, the plastic standoffs needed some trimming in a few places at the junction with the PCB, otherwise they are really close to some components.

     

    A bit sad that I cannot see the guts of the BB-AI any more : (

     

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  • mudz
    mudz over 5 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Good workaround shabaz. Is it working fine on load without a fan?

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  • 14rhb
    14rhb over 5 years ago in reply to shabaz

    That is definately a cool look (pun intended). Looking forward to seeing what temperatures you manage to read but I have every confidence they will be in the 'green' band with that arrangement.

     

    I've never used ceramic heatsinks before but I can imagine they are very tough to machine. Probably a diamond coated sharpening tool would help smooth edges or the mating surfaces, something like this from CPC Farnell? https://cpc.farnell.com/rolson-tools/24252/sharpening-blade-mini-diamond/dp/TL16023

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 5 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Why are the standoffs pointing up and not down shabaz

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  • clem57
    clem57 over 5 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Did you use https://www.amazon.com/Aikenuo-Adhesive-performance-Heatsink-Computer/dp/B075FR45DV?th=1  or something else as tape?

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago in reply to 14rhb

    Hi Rod,

     

    Very interesting tool! The regular sandpaper/cutting stuff was totally ineffective, the grinder attachment just made it red hot : )

    These micro porous ceramic heatsinksmicro porous ceramic heatsinks are better and can be more easily cut - and they're a bit more expensive but I think worth it.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago in reply to clem57

    Hi Clem,

     

    I used some thermal tape like thisthermal tape like this that I already had (I think this may be the part code).

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  • balearicdynamics
    balearicdynamics over 5 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Good to know, I will try with mine next days. First I will see a real temperature curve while using the board, to have an idea. Then probably adding a small fan is the faster solution I can afford here with the stuff I already have around. Like a CPU fan over the big square cooler. Does it has sense?

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago in reply to clem57

    It's misuse of those mounting holes : ) I wanted to put a cover with fan glued to it on the underside:

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 5 years ago in reply to balearicdynamics

    A CPU fan could work well I think! Looking forward to seeing your results! Are CPU fans 5V or 12V? I've wired the fan I'm using (5V) to the connector P9 on the BB-AI, pins 2 and 8 (GND and VDD_5V respectively), I just directly soldered the wires to the underside of the board.

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