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Feedback Requested: Table of Contents Navigation Menu on RoadTest Reviews / Project Articles / etc.

cstanton
cstanton over 1 year ago

Hey everyone,

This thread is duplicated in  Feedback Requested: Table of Contents Navigation Menu on RoadTest Reviews / Project Articles / etc. for reach to members, you can comment on either thread and voting in the poll will be reflected in both threads.

I'd like your feedback on the table of contents/navigation menu that we have mainly on RoadTest Reviews, but also on the Project Articles that we have recently introduced for Project14.

From a tablet, laptop or desktop computer, the navigation currently renders like this:

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It is automatically generated by using header tags in the content, respecting H2 to higher numbers for sub-sections, headings should always go in the order from H1 to a higher number resulting in smaller headings for sub-sections. H1 is usually preferred for the title of the content and is automatically on the page.

The headings are also highlighted in bold when you scroll down the page, and the navigation persists. Though this can cause a couple of issues, such as the navigation taking up screen real-estate, and it also nudges the content over to the side of the page rather than using the full width.

On a mobile phone or narrow device, however, the navigation looks like this:

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On mobile, the navigation should be 'sticky' and remain at the top of the screen, particularly if you scroll 'far' down or up, and it auto switches to which heading section you're in.

What's the Question?

Should we make the desktop experience the same or similar to mobile? Here are the options:

In this poll, I am using the word 'static' to mean that you can scroll down the page, or up the page, and you can scroll away from it. You will no longer see it when you navigate away by browsing the rest of the content on that page.

I am using the term 'floating' to mean that it stays with you, it 'floats' on top of content, or perhaps next to it, and travels with you when you scroll the page, you do not browse away from it.

I thought I would add a 'bottom of the content, static, but a drop-down' because there are sites such as Guru3D where this is exactly what it's like. Nothing overly fancy, and it doesn't detract from reading the content first, which is mostly what you're hear to do when you land on the page. Here's an example: https://www.guru3d.com/review/xfx-radeon-rx-5700-xt-thicc-iii-ultra-review 

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Though on their site you then have to scroll for the options, but I like how it shows the sub headings:

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Let me know by voting and leaving a comment

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps over 1 year ago +2
    Leave like is on PC screen. No TOC on mobile (even no sticky if possible) - where the widget takes a decent chunk of prime readable text area. I don't know how many have a mobile phone with a screen…
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett over 1 year ago +2
    I voted to remove the navigation but (based on the Thermoflagger RoadTest) which looks like this on my screen: Half the screen is wasted with static or semi-static content. I'd lose the right hand…
  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 1 year ago +2
    I voted for "Remove the navigation, tell us why below". A table of contents serves a purpose in a book with hundreds of pages. Particularly in a technical textbook that may not be read in a linear manner…
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    jc2048 over 1 year ago

    I voted for "Remove the navigation, tell us why below".

    A table of contents serves a purpose in a book with hundreds of pages. Particularly in a technical textbook that may not be read in a linear manner. For a blog that can be scrolled in a couple of seconds, and is generally a sequential narrative, there is little point. I've never used the functionality for real, though I've just played with it as part of reporting the highlighting problem.

    It's also a worry that this has started with Roadtests, is now migrating to 'Projects', and may end up being applied to all blogging.

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  • jc2048
    jc2048 over 1 year ago

    I voted for "Remove the navigation, tell us why below".

    A table of contents serves a purpose in a book with hundreds of pages. Particularly in a technical textbook that may not be read in a linear manner. For a blog that can be scrolled in a couple of seconds, and is generally a sequential narrative, there is little point. I've never used the functionality for real, though I've just played with it as part of reporting the highlighting problem.

    It's also a worry that this has started with Roadtests, is now migrating to 'Projects', and may end up being applied to all blogging.

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  • dang74
    dang74 over 1 year ago in reply to jc2048

    You make a valid point concerning table of contents and how they are not needed.  Even with 50 page datasheets I find myself scrolling through the content until I come across the heading, diagram or waveform I'm looking for.

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  • cstanton
    cstanton over 1 year ago in reply to jc2048
    jc2048 said:
    A table of contents serves a purpose in a book with hundreds of pages. Particularly in a technical textbook that may not be read in a linear manner. For a blog that can be scrolled in a couple of seconds, and is generally a sequential narrative, there is little point

    This has been my personal opinion for some time. It'd be great to have more votes in the poll, it's currently at 27 at the time of writing. 

    jc2048 said:
    It's also a worry that this has started with Roadtests, is now migrating to 'Projects', and may end up being applied to all blogging.

    It has been on RoadTests for a long time, though, and very few people commented about it one way or the other. It isn't going to be applied to the blog post content type.

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    jc2048 over 1 year ago in reply to cstanton

    Whilst I argued there for remove, in practice I would actually prefer "let the author of the blog decide whether or not to include a TOC". I wouldn't choose to have the TOC, but I don't think I'd want to be determining the choice for others.

    Good to know that it won't affect me with the general blogging.

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  • shabaz
    shabaz over 1 year ago in reply to cstanton

    The narrowness is also especially compounded when users also fight back on another issue and increase the font size in their reviews/blogs since the default text is still pretty small.

    There has been a workaround to the narrowness so far, but it's not a pleasant one. Today the only poor workaround is to deliberately not use headings, and then the full width is available. i.e. instead of using headings, it is possible to resize some text and bold it, to make it into a fake heading, and then manually type a table of contents at the top which is not hyperlinked. It could break page attractiveness to Google search to an extent and probably a load of other knock-on effects, all simply because of the wasted side space issue, but at least provides the end reader with decent width to more easily follow the content. It ends up being a can't eat the cake and having it too situation, with either a decent Google-indexable blog that is hard for the end user to read despite them having reached it, or a much easier-to-read blog that is difficult to index and may take more effort to reach : (

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