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Jan Cumps
Jan Cumps 4 months ago

Can you have enough stepper motors? Maybe.

I did an investment. I had one driver IC and a good motor. I added 4 somewhat heavier motors, and 4 Allegro A4988 drivers.

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(for my own documentation)

  • Motor Type: Bipolar Stepper
  • Step Angle: 1.8 deg.
  • Holding Torque: 40N.cm (56oz.in)
  • Rated Current/phase: 1.7A
  • Phase Resistance: 1.5Ohm±10%
  • Insulation Resistance: 100MΩ¸ Min, 500VDC
  • Insulation Strength: 500VAC for one minute
  • Physical Specification:
  • Frame Size: 42 x 42mm (1.7 inch x 1.7 inch)
  • Body Length: 40mm
  • Shaft Diameter: 5mm
  • Number of Wire Leads: 4
  • Wire Length: 400mm
  • Weight: 280g
  • Temperature rise: 80deg Max(rated current, 2 phase on)


Rood B+
Groen A-
Zwart A+
Blauw B- 

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One more strange stepper is on its way from China:
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Goal is to control them with a single Pico.

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  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 4 months ago in reply to Jan Cumps +2
  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps 4 months ago in reply to acdc90 +2
    (coincidentally, I did take a stepper out of a printer / scanner for a design challenge - my 1st ever e14 interaction)
  • michaelkellett
    michaelkellett 3 months ago in reply to shabaz +2
    The advantage of driving both sides of a gantry is not that you get more force but that applying the force equally to both sides massively reduces the demands on the sliding bearings. On a big gantry…
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  • Stevio73
    Stevio73 3 months ago

    I’ve always been curious about multiples of steppers. Could two be used in the same ‘action’ to multiply the torque or holding force?

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps 3 months ago in reply to Stevio73

    You can electrically wire motors parallel or in series. You would not need software to drive them independently in that case. Because a single step command would control both.

    Contrary to what you'd initially expect , total torque of two parallel driven steppers is lower than of a single motor. in series, the torque adds, but the maximum stepper speed lowers due to inductance increase.

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  • obones
    obones 3 months ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    What if I'd wanted to use two stepper motors for both sides of a gantry system? Should I wire them in series/parallel or would it be more suitable to use two independently controlled steppers?

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  • acdc90
    acdc90 3 months ago in reply to obones

    Hello on the gantry crains i have worked on they 2 motors running in parallel, 

    compaired to the CNC plasma machines that use 2 drives for 2 motors  (maximum deviation of 1mm) across 8m

    using rexroth motors and drives with both drives feed back to plc

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  • shabaz
    shabaz 3 months ago in reply to acdc90

    I think they are not stepper motors, I guess? Are they induction motors or something else for the gantry crane for instance, or servo motors?

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps 3 months ago in reply to obones

    I'd say: single logic / control part - and wire them so that they turn in the opposite direction.

    You may have to beef up the power part of the driver. For a TI DRV8711, it would mean other power MOSFETs, for an integrated driver, you may have to shop for one that can deal with higher current (and voltage headroom).

    Or a driver per motor, using the same logic STEP signal

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  • obones
    obones 3 months ago in reply to acdc90

    Thanks, I wasn't in the same ballpark in terms of span, it's more of an idea about reusing inkjet printers mechanical parts to create a "home made" plotter or laser engraver.
    But that's something in a corner of my head, not even close to starting

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  • Jan Cumps
    Jan Cumps 3 months ago in reply to obones

    A scanner that I took apart, had a single stepper (with reduction) for the scan wagon. And a toothed belt that interacted with cogwheels at both sides of the scanner. So the force was equal on both sides, but the rubber gave a bit of mechanical leeway.

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    Jan Cumps 3 months ago in reply to obones

    A scanner that I took apart, had a single stepper (with reduction) for the scan wagon. And a toothed belt that interacted with cogwheels at both sides of the scanner. So the force was equal on both sides, but the rubber gave a bit of mechanical leeway.

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