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What is likely to happen, if anything, if I try and export to the grid and import from the grid simultaneously?

Andrew J
Andrew J 3 months ago

I have this scenario:  I want to export from a house battery to the grid during the period 23:30 to 01:00 at 3.6kW (until battery is empty.)  At the same time, I have my car plugged in charging at 7kW.  Would that have the net effect of pulling 3.4kW from the grid?  Is anything likely to fail?

As a basic summary, I can charge my house battery up at 7p from 23:30 to 05:30 and discharge it to the house during the rest of the day, thus I pay only 7p for electricity used.  I don't fully discharge the battery during this period so I can sell the remaining charge back to the grid at 15p before fully charging up again ready for the day.  However, I also need to charge my car up which I also do 23:30 to 05:30 - Note because of the tariff I am on I have NO control over when the charging actually occurs so I cannot configure it to avoid the time period where the house battery is discharging.  Re-configuring the battery to not discharge when I plug the car in is a laborious process which I want to avoid.  I only actually charge the car once or twice a week.

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  • kmikemoo
    kmikemoo 3 months ago in reply to Andrew J +3
    As long as your grid tie point is behind the meter, you are correct that you will consume what you feed into the system and just draw the balance. If your grid tie point is separate or ahead of the…
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J 3 months ago +1
    To close this off, everything worked fine - car charged up, battery discharged and then charged backup. No fiery deaths occurred. What I’d forgotten about was the 8kW inverter - it can discharge up to…
  • Andrew J
    Andrew J 3 months ago in reply to obones +1
    Unfortunately the battery price wasn't broken out in my invoice, however looking back at emails, an 8kW pack cost £2350 and 5kW £1950. This is ex-vat and doesn't include installation or other ancillary…
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    kmikemoo 3 months ago

     Andrew J While this sounds like a great plan, the payback won't be worth the effort.  I believe the car charging is separate from the battery storage.  You have a 6 hour window to charge your battery storage system.  How much capacity do you have?  Subtract the energy that you will use to defer buying electricity at the higher (15p) rate during the day.  The remainder is what you have the potential to make 8p per kWh.  If you have 2 kWh per day excess, you make 16p per day, less then 60£ in a year.

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    kmikemoo 3 months ago

     Andrew J While this sounds like a great plan, the payback won't be worth the effort.  I believe the car charging is separate from the battery storage.  You have a 6 hour window to charge your battery storage system.  How much capacity do you have?  Subtract the energy that you will use to defer buying electricity at the higher (15p) rate during the day.  The remainder is what you have the potential to make 8p per kWh.  If you have 2 kWh per day excess, you make 16p per day, less then 60£ in a year.

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    Andrew J 3 months ago in reply to kmikemoo

    It’s not a plan and I’m not trying to make money but that’s not really relevant to my question. Just trying to work out what may happen as my alternative is to try and manually manage things. 

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