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the e14 point system. Not encouraging these days

Jan Cumps
Jan Cumps 24 days ago

When I look at how I'm doing, should I take a break?

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This is today. But in my history, it's a trend. 

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  • DAB
    DAB 23 days ago +4
    Don't worry about the points. Many of us enjoy your posts and look forward to what you do next.
  • cstanton
    cstanton 23 days ago +3 suggested
    Hi Jan Cumps , As others have mentioned, this happens when community accounts are removed, and since you create a lot of high quality and popular content, it's more inclined to be receptive of likes…
  • beacon_dave
    beacon_dave 24 days ago +2
    It may just be routine housekeeping. This happens when blogs are converted to forums as any likes in comments get revoked. It also probably happens with certain account deletion tasks if the user requests…
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  • cstanton
    0 cstanton 23 days ago

    Hi Jan Cumps ,

    As others have mentioned, this happens when community accounts are removed, and since you create a lot of high quality and popular content, it's more inclined to be receptive of likes and for those to be revoked.

    We can look at simply removing these notifications, after all, what use is it to be notified that they've been removed when it's not necessarily something you have control over? Better to see that someone liked it rather than unliked it, making you wonder if it "wasn't that good after all" ? when that's not really the case.

    We're partly at the mercy of Verint's platform as this is 'core' functionality as to what appears and how.

    Though I've also asked the dev' team to look at whether or not this is a symptom of another problem, as this isn't the first time this has been brought up ( 615 Points Revoked Today. Why? )

    Do we think removing these messages would be the best approach? Or alternatively should we remove receiving points for likes?

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    0 cstanton 23 days ago

    Hi Jan Cumps ,

    As others have mentioned, this happens when community accounts are removed, and since you create a lot of high quality and popular content, it's more inclined to be receptive of likes and for those to be revoked.

    We can look at simply removing these notifications, after all, what use is it to be notified that they've been removed when it's not necessarily something you have control over? Better to see that someone liked it rather than unliked it, making you wonder if it "wasn't that good after all" ? when that's not really the case.

    We're partly at the mercy of Verint's platform as this is 'core' functionality as to what appears and how.

    Though I've also asked the dev' team to look at whether or not this is a symptom of another problem, as this isn't the first time this has been brought up ( 615 Points Revoked Today. Why? )

    Do we think removing these messages would be the best approach? Or alternatively should we remove receiving points for likes?

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  • kmikemoo
    0 kmikemoo 23 days ago in reply to cstanton

    cstanton I think removing the notifications will still bring comments.  "Why did my score drop?"
    I don't have a solution - which is why I jokingly brought up the badge.
    Joy  Revoked - Been a Community Member long enough to lose activity points due to housekeeping.
    Maybe we could have a running "Revoked" counter.  Then we could compete for the most revoked points.  Hey, if life hands you lemons... right?

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  • robogary
    0 robogary 23 days ago in reply to cstanton

    After checking, I too have some points revoked, pushing me back further from the next achievement level. The E14 community point system is to measure/encourage participation, correct ? 

    In my humble opinion, I'd be OK doing away with the 5 pointer noise. A person doesn't need points for posting help requests. I dont need 5 points for trying to help someone.  It could be timely to simplify the point system. 

    I'd also significantly increase the points provided for applying to road tests, quizzes, projects, and challenges. These is where E14 (and sponsors) get marketing value.  

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  • scottiebabe
    0 scottiebabe 23 days ago in reply to robogary

    I'd like to see 1000 point bonuses for content that generates 1000+ organic page views.

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    0 cstanton 23 days ago in reply to scottiebabe

    I kinda love that idea, if only I could guarantee it wasn't bot traffic.

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    0 robogary 23 days ago in reply to kmikemoo

    REVOKED !!!!    :-)    => your comment and LIKE has been become OBSOLETE and no longer of value.......it reminded me of this Twilight Zone episode.  

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    In the end E14 is fun and rewarding, I myself don't get hung up on the points, unless there is a lapel pin involved for my hat   :-)  

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  • shabaz
    0 shabaz 23 days ago in reply to robogary

    It is always fascinating how out-of-touch the Verint developers were. They didn't put themselves in the shoes of users at all. Wouldn't take a genius to realize that it doesn't encourage the end users of the product they developed! It makes you wonder how no-one in their team picked this up and did something about it. At a minimum they could have picked a gentler word like "Adjusted", if they couldn't have done anything else.

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    0 cstanton 23 days ago in reply to shabaz
    shabaz said:
    At a minimum they could have picked a gentler word like "Adjusted"

    Similar for "Your content has been reported as ABUSIVE". No, no dear. It's spam. Or accidentally moderated.

    shabaz said:
    It is always fascinating how out-of-touch the Verint developers were

    Some changes that I raised 3 years ago as ideas but have had no action on I've been celebrating their birthdays on the support forums. We had a recent 'open office hours' with their staff and I pressed the point again, we'll see if there are any changes.

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  • robogary
    0 robogary 23 days ago in reply to scottiebabe

    thats a neat idea. It may take some time to accumulate 1000 views - could we negotiate a lower view count for the score ?  :-)   

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  • scottiebabe
    0 scottiebabe 23 days ago in reply to robogary

    I think you almost always cross the threshold with your unique and masterfully crafted projects

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  • beacon_dave
    0 beacon_dave 23 days ago in reply to cstanton

    Could perhaps look at enhancing the 'Raining Comments' achievement, as comments tend to be easier to verify user activity.

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