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Is General Artificial Intelligence a Breakthrough or just a Financial Hype?

HKPhysicist
HKPhysicist 3 days ago

According to my understanding, AI hype big corps spend a whole country's energy resource to produce learning software and hardware which can do a very little things for us.  Laughing

On the other hands, a parrot can learn how to talk with men with just a few grams of nutrition.  Also, my little puppy learnt how to do simple house hood things for me in just a few minutes and a few grams fo nutrition. Blush

Which one of these examples are more intelligent and energy efficient?

Had we better use those astronomical sum of money and resources on investigating deeper natural laws such as room temperature superconductivity, novel material and crystal, higher energy experiments beyond the Large Hadron Collider, nuclear fusion experiments, etc.?

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  • DAB
    DAB 23 hours ago +3
    The thing about Hype is that you create a Fear of Missing Out among the technologist who really do not understand the technology involved. I have been following AI for over 45 years and it has never…
  • battlecoder
    battlecoder 3 days ago +1
    Unfortunately right now the tech industry is heavily investing in large language models, even when they are not the kind of AI that is helping science. As far as I understand, the cost of running those…
  • robogary
    robogary 3 days ago +1
    Investors invest to make money. Material science is definitely worthwhile if it solves a problem. AI investment does surprisingly subtle things - like channeling advertising to those with a certain product…
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  • shabaz
    shabaz 3 days ago

    People (including some tech experts) thought the cloud was hype and a fad, and it took less than a decade for it to become crazy to not use the cloud for most businesses. Others assumed IoT was useless, and yet there are now hundreds of devices all around you wherever you go, being monitored or controlled over combined wireless and Internet, from energy meters to vending machines. Probably around 60% of my search engine queries have now been replaced by LLM interaction, it just works better. I use AI to help me with all manner of tasks (non-technical and technical).

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  • bradfordmiller
    bradfordmiller 2 days ago in reply to shabaz

    Personally, I still think cloud is crazy without homomorphic encryption. Businesses are risking their IP, at least, by putting control over it in the hands of others.

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    bradfordmiller 2 days ago in reply to shabaz

    Personally, I still think cloud is crazy without homomorphic encryption. Businesses are risking their IP, at least, by putting control over it in the hands of others.

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    shabaz 2 days ago in reply to bradfordmiller

    I don't know enough to comment with much authority, but I think that most orgs consider the encryption enough of a solved problem. The orgs get to control where their data resides, and almost all orgs have to trust other orgs to transport their data anyway (I.e. even if they were not using cloud, but just moving data to a redundant site they themselves own - and most of it even used to be unencrypted links if it wasn't on the public Internet), until Snowdon era.

    From what little I've seen, orgs with a tremendous amount to lose, such as banks, trust the cloud (not all PaaS features, but a large enough subset) for implementing services, and they trust the public Internet for their customers to perform online banking and commerce. (Of course, as mentioned we know since Snowdon that all that data flows through certain rooms, so nothing is 100% certain).

    The cloud providers cannot decrypt (or claim they cannot) the data belonging to businesses who are using their secure technologies. Governments also use the cloud (admittedly only specific data centers owned by the cloud providers).

    I'm not sure how homomorphicness helps, I'd need more input because I'm no subject-matter expert at all. I had a job interview one time for a firm that wished to do something like that (they didn't call it that at least to me) for medical data (since it's highly desirable to look for health trends and anomalies if only it could be done without providing health records that are traceable to individuals, except once it is known for sure that some of those individuals need to be contacted in a matter of life or death, and then it needs to be reversible by the original data owners), but I think they will have difficulty marketing it, because to me it seemed high risk that something would eventually leak, let alone the issues of getting governments to allow such transfer of data to orgs for data mining, and talking to their mathematicians, didn't give me a warm feeling (granted they were talking to a non-expert, plus I was not an employee). 

    I wish I knew more than this vagueness of my current knowledge, I'd like to learn more through self study, but I suspect I'd end up stuck as soon as I hit any reasonably difficult maths.

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