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  • Author Author: Andrew J
  • Date Created: 27 Nov 2019 1:47 PM Date Created
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Oooh.....Goody box.

Andrew J
Andrew J
27 Nov 2019

Look what arrived today:

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Could it possibly be...?

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Yes! 

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It's a 10Kg/22lbs behemoth!  Now all I need to find is a UK power cable! image

 

With many, many thanks to James, baldengineer, and Element 14.  It was awesome to get selected and this has definitely gone to a good home - I'm looking forward to putting it to good use. 

 

Out of curiosity, and because I've not been able to do such a test yet, I thought I'd start off with a comparison to the PS I have just finished building so I set the two up with a test circuit:

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Yaps is driving the circuit on the left, Tenma the one on the left.  Both supplies are voltage limited at 5V; the resolution of the Tenma display isn't enough to display current but it's likely to be the same as YAPS at around 10-15mV given both circuits are exactly the same.

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It's a 555 timer with 74HC393 binary counter outputting to a number of 74HCnn Logic chips to drive the LEDs.  These cycle through digits 1 - 6 as a dice - not visible in the pic as they're a bit bright!  It's a circuit that Charles Platt created for his Make: Electronics book and it seemed useful for this purpose.  I actually created a video of the circuits running if you're interested.

 

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I just wanted to do a quick comparison of ripple and noise whilst the supplies where driving the circuit.  I've clipped the probes to the supplies' outputs and it's not ideal as I've had to use the probes' earth fly lead and connect to short pieces of hook-up wire as I just couldn't get the probes to clip on to the terminals directly.  Here's the scope output:

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Channels 1 Yellow and 2 Pink are YAPS; 3 Cyan and 4 Green are Tenma.  2 and 4 are measuring AC noise.  Measured values, Pk-Pk are:

Channel 1: 0.014V

Channel 3: 0.014V

 

Channel 2: 0.36mV

Channel 4: 0.46mV

 

That's as close as makes no difference and over a number of samples, stayed consistent with each other.  Given one is SMPS and one is linear, I expect that with different circuits/loads they'd have different characteristics and I'll discover those as I use them.

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  • Andrew J
    Andrew J over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz +4
    Those black studs look like they should move, but don't - they just sort of bend around a bit and feel like they're going to snap off. Nothing in the data sheet about them either so I just assumed they…
  • e14phil
    e14phil over 6 years ago +3
    FANCY
  • three-phase
    three-phase over 6 years ago +3
    Congratulations on the win, hope it gives you many years service. Kind regards.
  • baldengineer
    baldengineer over 6 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Jan Cumps  wrote:


    Does it deliver 50 or 60 Hz DC?

    Fortunately, neither. image

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    Andrew J over 6 years ago in reply to Jan Cumps

    Does DC have a frequency?  I mean, there is some ripple on the output but would that be measured at 50/60Hz?  Beyond my understanding I'm afraid Jan.

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    Jan Cumps over 6 years ago in reply to baldengineer

    baldengineer  wrote:

     

    Oh and side note, sorry, I meant to send you note to say you'd need to supply your own power cable! But, I switched the input voltage for you... image

    Does it deliver 50 or 60 Hz DC?

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    Andrew J over 6 years ago in reply to shabaz

    Those black studs look like they should move, but don't - they just sort of bend around a bit and feel like they're going to snap off.  Nothing in the data sheet about them either so I just assumed they were 'decoration' in the end.  Either that, incredibly stiff or faulty.

     

    There are some nice interfaces but the museum is dealing with mostly really old stuff.  They do have some home computers from the 80's, a Cray, Next cube etc but the interesting things are from the 40s to 70s.  Flip switches and dials where the order of the day, and the great clunky key terminals which were a joy to use.  The nicest UI to see is the Harwell Dekatron (Witch) in action and seeing memory read/written and actually reading directly what is being stored, in decimal!

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    shabaz over 6 years ago in reply to Andrew J

    Hehe I noticed the precise cutout : ) Also nice colour palette choices on the screen, not a complete mix of colours like kids toys : )

    Those dials are extremely nice regardless of the markings, since you've got the display. The light feedback feeling when turning them I always imagine to be what some high-end wristwatch or some other precision gear may be like : )

    I have a high-voltage PSU with them, and they can be locked, as I think yours can too from the photo.

    You're lucky working in a museum, you get to see all the ergonomic UI solutions before everything became cost-reduced with rubber push-buttons : )

    Now I think about it, I wonder who invented the Tact switch : ) I'll have to research that sometime during Xmas : )

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